[194227] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Tykwinski)
Tue Mar 28 19:17:36 2017
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Eric Tykwinski <eric-list@truenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <32365.1490742510@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 19:17:25 -0400
To: valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
> On Mar 28, 2017, at 7:08 PM, valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
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> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 15:51:43 -0700, Seth Mattinen said:
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>> Has there ever been a real survey that asks people where they think
>> Google gets the money to support things like Gmail for "free"?
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> There's a difference. Google only gets to aggregate data you pass to =
Google.
> Your ISP gets to aggregate data you pass to *anybody*. The difference =
matters.
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> Consider this example from the EFF:
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> "They know you spoke with an HIV testing service, then your doctor, =
then your
> health insurance company in the same hour. But they don't know what =
was
> discussed."
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> And the ISP is in that same position of being able to see all 3, and =
allowing
> anybody they sell the data to, to make conclusions.
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> https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/why-metadata-matters
My first thought was your 6 year old watching sesame street videos, and =
your 10 year old playing minecraft.
Sounds like the various COPPA lawsuits that I=E2=80=99ve seen from the =
FTC lawsuits, but IANAL.=
