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Re: Bandwidth Savings

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marty Strong via NANOG)
Wed Jan 11 17:51:40 2017

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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:34:23 +0000
To: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com>
From: Marty Strong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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I believe the ISP is located in Trinidad & Tobago.

There are five international submarine cables that land on the island:
- SG-SCS
- Americas-II
- ECFS
- Southern Caribbean Fiber
- ECLink

Of those, 1 go to the closest real interconnectivity hub of Miami, with =
the others requiring another pair onwards.

ECLink lands in Cura=C3=A7ao, which could give access to AMS-IX =
Caribbean, which may help with connectivity to content providers, both =
Akamai and Goole are live and we are in the process of connecting =
(https://cw.ams-ix.net/connected_parties). Pricing however, is probably =
just as expensive on that cable than to Miami.

It would be interesting to hear from the OP the rough pricing for =
connectivity to Miami, vs. elsewhere.

Regards,
Marty Strong
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> On 11 Jan 2017, at 21:23, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> The challenges are almost certainly economics related, at the lack of
> competition and high costs for layer 1/2 transport from his Caribbean
> island to Miami. Via whatever submarine cables exist that are =
controlled by
> larger ILEC type entities/telcos. Or satellite (whether geostationary
> transponder capacity or o3b).
>=20
> Depending on what island we're talking about, the $$$$$/month for a =
single
> 1GbE or 10GbE layer 2 transport service from $ISLAND to Miami will be =
very
> high compared to what a network operator in the US 48 states is =
accustomed
> to paying.
>=20
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Richard Hicks =
<richard.hicks@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>=20
>> =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
>> I don't know the the Caribbean Internet Exchanges market.  Are any =
worth
>> peering at versus buying additional L2 bandwidth to Miami?
>>=20
>> https://cw.ams-ix.net/
>> http://www.ocix.net/ocix/
>>=20
>> Rick=E2=80=8B
>>=20
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Keenan Singh =
<keenansingh@airlinktt.net>
>> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Hi Guys
>>>=20
>>> We are an ISP in the Caribbean, and are faced with extremely high
>> Bandwidth
>>> costs, compared to the US, we currently use Peer App for Caching =
however
>>> with most services now moving to HTTPS the cache is proving to be =
less
>> and
>>> less effective. We are currently looking at any way we can save on
>>> Bandwidth or to be more Efficient with the Bandwidth we currently =
have.
>> We
>>> do have a Layer 2 Circuit between the Island and Miami, I am seeing =
there
>>> are WAN Accelerators where they would put a Server on either end and =
sort
>>> of Compress and decompress the Traffic before it goes over the Layer =
2, I
>>> have never used this before, has any one here used anything like =
this,
>> what
>>> results would I be able to expect for ISP Traffic?
>>>=20
>>> If not any ideas on Bandwidth Savings, or being more Efficient with =
want
>> we
>>> currently.
>>>=20
>>> Many thanks for any Help
>>>=20
>>> Keenan
>>>=20
>>=20


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