[193342] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Bandwidth Savings
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marty Strong via NANOG)
Wed Jan 11 17:25:04 2017
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Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 22:24:55 +0000
To: Martin Hannigan <hannigan@gmail.com>
From: Marty Strong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: Marty Strong <marty@cloudflare.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Seemingly also a GGC is there: =
https://ix.tt/cache-services-now-live-at-ttix/ maybe if the cost is low =
it might be worth it, assuming the incumbent doesn=E2=80=99t make it =
prohibitive.
Regards,
Marty Strong
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> On 11 Jan 2017, at 22:17, Martin Hannigan <hannigan@gmail.com> wrote:
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> There's also an IXP in Trinidad:
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> https://www.peeringdb.com/ix/940
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> [ .. ]
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> https://ix.tt/membership/founding-members/
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> That doesn't mean a lot other than there's an IXP with at least Akamai =
and Columbus. I know the Akamai cache is there because I put it there.
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> I was going to point at CaribNOG, but the MX is null and they're off =
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> Best,
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> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:34 PM, Marty Strong via NANOG =
<nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
> I believe the ISP is located in Trinidad & Tobago.
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> There are five international submarine cables that land on the island:
> - SG-SCS
> - Americas-II
> - ECFS
> - Southern Caribbean Fiber
> - ECLink
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> Of those, 1 go to the closest real interconnectivity hub of Miami, =
with the others requiring another pair onwards.
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> ECLink lands in Cura=C3=A7ao, which could give access to AMS-IX =
Caribbean, which may help with connectivity to content providers, both =
Akamai and Goole are live and we are in the process of connecting =
(https://cw.ams-ix.net/connected_parties). Pricing however, is probably =
just as expensive on that cable than to Miami.
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> It would be interesting to hear from the OP the rough pricing for =
connectivity to Miami, vs. elsewhere.
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> Regards,
> Marty Strong
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> Cloudflare - AS13335
> Network Engineer
> marty@cloudflare.com
> +44 7584 906 055
> smartflare (Skype)
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> > On 11 Jan 2017, at 21:23, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The challenges are almost certainly economics related, at the lack =
of
> > competition and high costs for layer 1/2 transport from his =
Caribbean
> > island to Miami. Via whatever submarine cables exist that are =
controlled by
> > larger ILEC type entities/telcos. Or satellite (whether =
geostationary
> > transponder capacity or o3b).
> >
> > Depending on what island we're talking about, the $$$$$/month for a =
single
> > 1GbE or 10GbE layer 2 transport service from $ISLAND to Miami will =
be very
> > high compared to what a network operator in the US 48 states is =
accustomed
> > to paying.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Richard Hicks =
<richard.hicks@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> >> =E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
> >> I don't know the the Caribbean Internet Exchanges market. Are any =
worth
> >> peering at versus buying additional L2 bandwidth to Miami?
> >>
> >> https://cw.ams-ix.net/
> >> http://www.ocix.net/ocix/
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> >> Rick=E2=80=8B
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> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Keenan Singh =
<keenansingh@airlinktt.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Guys
> >>>
> >>> We are an ISP in the Caribbean, and are faced with extremely high
> >> Bandwidth
> >>> costs, compared to the US, we currently use Peer App for Caching =
however
> >>> with most services now moving to HTTPS the cache is proving to be =
less
> >> and
> >>> less effective. We are currently looking at any way we can save on
> >>> Bandwidth or to be more Efficient with the Bandwidth we currently =
have.
> >> We
> >>> do have a Layer 2 Circuit between the Island and Miami, I am =
seeing there
> >>> are WAN Accelerators where they would put a Server on either end =
and sort
> >>> of Compress and decompress the Traffic before it goes over the =
Layer 2, I
> >>> have never used this before, has any one here used anything like =
this,
> >> what
> >>> results would I be able to expect for ISP Traffic?
> >>>
> >>> If not any ideas on Bandwidth Savings, or being more Efficient =
with want
> >> we
> >>> currently.
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks for any Help
> >>>
> >>> Keenan
> >>>
> >>
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