[193351] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Bandwidth Savings
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marty Strong via NANOG)
Thu Jan 12 08:41:31 2017
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 13:41:03 +0000
To: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
From: Marty Strong via NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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At the end of the day it=E2=80=99s a cost/benefit analysis, reading the =
OP=E2=80=99s message it=E2=80=99s clear that the IX or transit isn=E2=80=99=
t really the problem, but rather how much traffic traverses to the point =
of transit/IX. I think until we see some numbers both in terms of =
traffic and in terms of price to say Miami, Willemstad, etc. we can=E2=80=99=
t easily determine a good solution.
Regards,
Marty Strong
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> On 12 Jan 2017, at 13:38, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> I remember there were a couple different owners down there, but =
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> Not knowing the international cable market, is this like AT&T, Comcast =
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> Mike Hammett=20
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuhnke@gmail.com>=20
> To: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>=20
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 3:23:58 PM=20
> Subject: Re: Bandwidth Savings=20
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> The challenges are almost certainly economics related, at the lack of=20=
> competition and high costs for layer 1/2 transport from his Caribbean=20=
> island to Miami. Via whatever submarine cables exist that are =
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> larger ILEC type entities/telcos. Or satellite (whether geostationary=20=
> transponder capacity or o3b).=20
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> Depending on what island we're talking about, the $$$$$/month for a =
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> 1GbE or 10GbE layer 2 transport service from $ISLAND to Miami will be =
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> high compared to what a network operator in the US 48 states is =
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> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Richard Hicks =
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>> I don't know the the Caribbean Internet Exchanges market. Are any =
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>> peering at versus buying additional L2 bandwidth to Miami?=20
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>> https://cw.ams-ix.net/=20
>> http://www.ocix.net/ocix/=20
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>> Rick=20
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>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Keenan Singh =
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>> wrote:=20
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>>> Hi Guys=20
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>>> We are an ISP in the Caribbean, and are faced with extremely high=20
>> Bandwidth=20
>>> costs, compared to the US, we currently use Peer App for Caching =
however=20
>>> with most services now moving to HTTPS the cache is proving to be =
less=20
>> and=20
>>> less effective. We are currently looking at any way we can save on=20=
>>> Bandwidth or to be more Efficient with the Bandwidth we currently =
have.=20
>> We=20
>>> do have a Layer 2 Circuit between the Island and Miami, I am seeing =
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>>> are WAN Accelerators where they would put a Server on either end and =
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>>> of Compress and decompress the Traffic before it goes over the Layer =
2, I=20
>>> have never used this before, has any one here used anything like =
this,=20
>> what=20
>>> results would I be able to expect for ISP Traffic?=20
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>>> If not any ideas on Bandwidth Savings, or being more Efficient with =
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>> we=20
>>> currently.=20
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>>> Many thanks for any Help=20
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>>> Keenan=20
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