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Re: intra-AS messaging for route leak prevention

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hugo Slabbert)
Fri Jun 10 13:26:40 2016

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From: Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com>
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On Fri 2016-Jun-10 13:08:48 -0400, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.=
com> wrote:

>On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 10/Jun/16 16:47, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>>
>>
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>> so I can't be a customer of you and a network you peer with?
>>
>>
>> You can, but we won't learn your paths via the peering session we would
>> have with your other ISP.

Wouldn't "learn but depref" be preferred and more common?  E.g. customer=20
routes get tagged with "customer route" community and local-pref'd to 150=
=20
or something; peer routes get tagged with "peer route" community and local=
=20
pref'd somewhere below that.

Else any of your other customers that are single-homed to you can't reach=
=20
your dual-homed customer A in cases where customer A's link to you is down,=
=20
but customer A has other transits with whom you peer?

Unless it's mitigated by you accepting customer A's prefixes from any=20
transits you have, which at the least seems sub-optimal (now reaching them=
=20
via transit rather than peering if customer A's circuit is down) or=20
possibly also up-ended if you also similarly apply "don't accept customer=
=20
prefixes from transits".

No?

>>
>>
>oh, so I didn't misunderstand.. that makes 'backup isp' less useful, no?

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