[187169] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: New peerings between Hurricane Electric and Level3?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew D. Hardeman)
Thu Jan 21 14:48:27 2016
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: "Matthew D. Hardeman" <mhardeman@ipifony.com>
In-Reply-To: <F85FAFB2-9104-4445-8A06-0E162B14AA5B@ianai.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 13:48:23 -0600
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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That=E2=80=99s an excellent point, actually.
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:45 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick@ianai.net> =
wrote:
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> Make the AS path longer, losing traffic, and therefore revenue?
>=20
> Why would they do that?
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> The twtelecom customers cannot multi-home (most of them anyway). Most =
of 3549=E2=80=99s traffic has other paths to the Internet.
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> TTFN,
> patrick
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>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman =
<mhardeman@ipifony.com> wrote:
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>> I was actually surprised they didn=E2=80=99t just leave GBLX =
customers on AS3549, kill all external AS3549 peerings, and treat AS3549 =
downline as a Level3 customer, accepting L3 and GBLX communities from =
GBLX customers.
>>=20
>> That seems more along the lines of what they=E2=80=99re doing with =
the AS4323 TW Telecom customers. (Though, in fairness, AS3356 has =
always carried AS4323 as a customer as far as I recall.) It will be =
interesting to see if whether they kill off AS4323 peerings.
>>=20
>>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Marty Strong <marty@cloudflare.com> =
wrote:
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>>> Depends on the market and how far along their migration is going. In =
experience with GTT (AS4436) they=E2=80=99re still not finished =
migrating everything to AS3257.
>>>=20
>>> Regards,
>>> Marty Strong
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> CloudFlare - AS13335
>>> Network Engineer
>>> marty@cloudflare.com
>>> +44 7584 906 055
>>> smartflare (Skype)
>>>=20
>>> http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=3D13335
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>>>> On 21 Jan 2016, at 19:12, Matthew D. Hardeman =
<mhardeman@ipifony.com> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Intriguing. If it were only that though, wouldn=E2=80=99t they =
just still pick it up via TeliaSonera IC?
>>>>=20
>>>> I did notice that in the past few months, TeliaSonera has been =
dropping AS3549 from spots where they had session with both AS3549 and =
with AS3356 and now reaches AS3549 via AS3356.
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Marty Strong <marty@cloudflare.com> =
wrote:
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>>>>> I=E2=80=99ve heard from the grape vine that this is due to the =
GBLX to Level3 transition, and it=E2=80=99s in fact paid IP transit.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Marty Strong
>>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>>> CloudFlare - AS13335
>>>>> Network Engineer
>>>>> marty@cloudflare.com
>>>>> +44 7584 906 055
>>>>> smartflare (Skype)
>>>>>=20
>>>>> http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=3D13335
>>>>>=20
>>>>>> On 21 Jan 2016, at 18:37, Matthew D. Hardeman =
<mhardeman@ipifony.com> wrote:
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> Yesterday I was looking at some of the IPv4 and IPv6 session =
summaries on http://lg.he.net and saw that both the Equinix Los Angeles =
and Equinix Ashburn site routers have new IPv4 and IPv6 sessions (not =
yet running, but administratively up for about 6 days now) configured =
for AS3356.
>>>>>>=20
>>>>>> I know they already peer IPv6, though not at those sites. Is =
this the first hint that HE and Level3 are coming around on an IPv4 and =
IPv6 peering agreement?
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