[187168] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: New peerings between Hurricane Electric and Level3?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Thu Jan 21 14:45:16 2016
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From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <E210C55B-BDF0-42BC-B992-0E0CAFADD971@ipifony.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2016 14:45:05 -0500
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Make the AS path longer, losing traffic, and therefore revenue?
Why would they do that?
The twtelecom customers cannot multi-home (most of them anyway). Most of =
3549=E2=80=99s traffic has other paths to the Internet.
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TTFN,
patrick
> On Jan 21, 2016, at 2:22 PM, Matthew D. Hardeman =
<mhardeman@ipifony.com> wrote:
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> I was actually surprised they didn=E2=80=99t just leave GBLX customers =
on AS3549, kill all external AS3549 peerings, and treat AS3549 downline =
as a Level3 customer, accepting L3 and GBLX communities from GBLX =
customers.
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> That seems more along the lines of what they=E2=80=99re doing with the =
AS4323 TW Telecom customers. (Though, in fairness, AS3356 has always =
carried AS4323 as a customer as far as I recall.) It will be =
interesting to see if whether they kill off AS4323 peerings.
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>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Marty Strong <marty@cloudflare.com> =
wrote:
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>> Depends on the market and how far along their migration is going. In =
experience with GTT (AS4436) they=E2=80=99re still not finished =
migrating everything to AS3257.
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>> Regards,
>> Marty Strong
>> --------------------------------------
>> CloudFlare - AS13335
>> Network Engineer
>> marty@cloudflare.com
>> +44 7584 906 055
>> smartflare (Skype)
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>> http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=3D13335
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>>> On 21 Jan 2016, at 19:12, Matthew D. Hardeman =
<mhardeman@ipifony.com> wrote:
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>>> Intriguing. If it were only that though, wouldn=E2=80=99t they just =
still pick it up via TeliaSonera IC?
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>>> I did notice that in the past few months, TeliaSonera has been =
dropping AS3549 from spots where they had session with both AS3549 and =
with AS3356 and now reaches AS3549 via AS3356.
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>>>> On Jan 21, 2016, at 1:08 PM, Marty Strong <marty@cloudflare.com> =
wrote:
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>>>> I=E2=80=99ve heard from the grape vine that this is due to the GBLX =
to Level3 transition, and it=E2=80=99s in fact paid IP transit.
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>>>> Regards,
>>>> Marty Strong
>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> CloudFlare - AS13335
>>>> Network Engineer
>>>> marty@cloudflare.com
>>>> +44 7584 906 055
>>>> smartflare (Skype)
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>>>> http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=3D13335
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>>>>> On 21 Jan 2016, at 18:37, Matthew D. Hardeman =
<mhardeman@ipifony.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Yesterday I was looking at some of the IPv4 and IPv6 session =
summaries on http://lg.he.net and saw that both the Equinix Los Angeles =
and Equinix Ashburn site routers have new IPv4 and IPv6 sessions (not =
yet running, but administratively up for about 6 days now) configured =
for AS3356.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I know they already peer IPv6, though not at those sites. Is this =
the first hint that HE and Level3 are coming around on an IPv4 and IPv6 =
peering agreement?
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