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Re: de-peering for security sake

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Doug Barton)
Sun Jan 17 16:09:21 2016

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From: Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.us>
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 13:09:15 -0800
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On 1/17/2016 12:44 PM, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
> We need an effective forum with effective participation perhaps
> eventually leading to signed contractual obligations agreed to by all
> parties.

Not gonna help. The same people who have no incentive to do the right 
thing now will still have no incentive to join the group you propose.

I've said it before, and it's an unpopular option, but the only way that 
this will change is to make it more expensive to do the wrong thing than 
it is to do the right thing. That means lawsuits filed by companies that 
have been harmed as a result of those that are not doing the right 
thing. That will produce the incentives which will be recognized and 
understood by all layers of management, and result in real action for 
the better.

As nice as it would be if everyone were to do the right thing because 
it's the right thing, we already have ample evidence that won't happen. 
Time to stop pretending otherwise.

Doug


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