[187061] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: de-peering for security sake
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Hollis)
Sun Jan 17 16:15:39 2016
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Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 13:15:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Hollis <goemon@sasami.anime.net>
To: Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.us>
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Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2016, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 1/17/2016 12:44 PM, bzs@theworld.com wrote:
>> We need an effective forum with effective participation perhaps
>> eventually leading to signed contractual obligations agreed to by all
>> parties.
> Not gonna help. The same people who have no incentive to do the right thing
> now will still have no incentive to join the group you propose.
>
> I've said it before, and it's an unpopular option, but the only way that this
> will change is to make it more expensive to do the wrong thing than it is to
> do the right thing.
I think it can happen without lawsuits. look at RBLs and spamhaus. a bit
sad that spamhaus has to exist in order to motivate operators to clean up
their cesspools, but it does work to a certain extent.
-Dan
