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Re: Survey on Middlebox modeling and troubleshooting

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William Herrin)
Wed Jan 6 20:21:07 2016

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From: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 20:18:02 -0500
To: "Zhang, Ying" <ying.zhang13@hpe.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Zhang, Ying <ying.zhang13@hpe.com> wrote:
> We are researchers in HP Labs and Duke university. We are currently working on a project related to Middlebox modeling and troubleshooting.
> We are currently conducting a survey and gathering feedback from operators.
> Can you help us by providing some answers? Please feel free to email us if you have any additional suggestions.
> https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5SFP6G8

Hello,

I would offer two suggestions:

First, we heard you the first time. One post was acceptable. Twice was
forgivable. This is the fourth time you've posted this exact same
message to the NANOG list. Please stop spamming.

Second, the people one this mailing list are here for their interest
in Internet backbone networks... where stateful middleboxes can't
possibly keep up and thus are not generally used. Most of us operate
ancillary networks where we use middleboxes of one kind or another but
if you're trying to understand middleboxes on the backbone, responses
littered with that data won't help you. And if you're trying to
understand middleboxes on Internet networks in general, you'll get
badly skewed results by only asking here. We are in no respect a
representative population.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



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