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Re: Survey on Middlebox modeling and troubleshooting

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Wed Jan 6 23:50:36 2016

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Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2016 13:48:25 +0900
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
To: Joe Hamelin <joe@nethead.com>
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Cc: Ying Zhang <ying.zhang13@hpe.com>,
 North American Network Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
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> You don't explain what you are trying to research but asking us to
> give, gratis, deep inside depth to our deployments.  Most of us would
> have serious issues with our employers if we gave out that info.

this is the problem with all the academic surveys on nanog.  few, if
any, medium to large networks could answer if they wanted to.  so the
surveyors get very biased results and then report them at academic
conferences.  this is not really a problem unless you happen to also go
to academic conferences and choke trying to keep your mouth shut.

randy

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