[179202] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BGP offloading (fixing legacy router BGP scalability issues)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Colin Johnston)
Thu Apr 2 16:10:42 2015
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From: Colin Johnston <colinj@gt86car.org.uk>
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 21:10:34 +0100
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Cc: "goemon@anime.net" <goemon@anime.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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yes have tried chinese language communication as well.
none of it works, they dont believe bad traffic is a big issue where it has b=
een proved 100% is bad
we do belive this is due to bad abuse practice not informing customers and a=
lso deliberately sending bad traffic to test exploits on a large scale.
ssl bad cert signing in china is just a example of this culture
shutting the door if it is shown unfriendly traffic makes sense to me
colin
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> On 2 Apr 2015, at 20:50, Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote:
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> The essence of this discussion is IMHO a little...um...trite.
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> Be that as it may how many of you have attempted to contact these
> providers in Chinese?
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> Or do you all have good reason to believe that is never the problem?
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>> On April 2, 2015 at 11:05 goemon@anime.net (goemon@anime.net) wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, Mark Tinka wrote:
>>> Most of the spam I get comes from North America. Go figure. I'm not
>>> about to cut access to that continent off.
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>> Big difference is that north america is usually responsive to abuse=20
>> notifications and sometimes has LEO who will listen.
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>> china is neither.
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>> -Dan
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> -Barry Shein
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