[179203] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BGP offloading (fixing legacy router BGP scalability issues)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Shein)
Thu Apr 2 16:35:06 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 16:34:26 -0400
To: Colin Johnston <colinj@gt86car.org.uk>
In-Reply-To: <2D14A693-8E41-4660-B4E4-F4E170816F49@gt86car.org.uk>
Cc: "goemon@anime.net" <goemon@anime.net>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Sounds there's a need for a higher level of dialogue. Hey, if it can
be done with Iran...
These are identifiable companies not sub-rosa criminal gangs (as we
get with spam) so there ought to be some hope.
On April 2, 2015 at 21:10 colinj@gt86car.org.uk (Colin Johnston) wrote:
> yes have tried chinese language communication as well.
> none of it works, they dont believe bad traffic is a big issue where it has been proved 100% is bad
> we do belive this is due to bad abuse practice not informing customers and also deliberately sending bad traffic to test exploits on a large scale.
>
> ssl bad cert signing in china is just a example of this culture
>
> shutting the door if it is shown unfriendly traffic makes sense to me
>
> colin
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 2 Apr 2015, at 20:50, Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The essence of this discussion is IMHO a little...um...trite.
> >
> > Be that as it may how many of you have attempted to contact these
> > providers in Chinese?
> >
> > Or do you all have good reason to believe that is never the problem?
> >
> >
> >> On April 2, 2015 at 11:05 goemon@anime.net (goemon@anime.net) wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2 Apr 2015, Mark Tinka wrote:
> >>> Most of the spam I get comes from North America. Go figure. I'm not
> >>> about to cut access to that continent off.
> >>
> >> Big difference is that north america is usually responsive to abuse
> >> notifications and sometimes has LEO who will listen.
> >>
> >> china is neither.
> >>
> >> -Dan
> >
> > --
> > -Barry Shein
> >
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-Barry Shein
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