[178651] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joel jaeggli)
Sun Mar 1 21:14:23 2015
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Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:14:01 -0800
From: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
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On 3/1/15 1:26 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>> It was the combination of asymmetric, no or few IPs (and NAT), and
>>> bandwidth caps.
>>
>> let's not rewrite history here: IPv4 address scarcity has been a thing=
>> since the very early 1990s. Otherwise why would cidr have been create=
d?
>=20
> CIDR had nothing to do with address scarcity. CIDR was invented for rou=
ting
> table slot scarcity in Cisco AGS hardware of the era.
nope sorry, both are justifications...
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1519#page-6
There are not according to 1993 era RFC's, enough class B and A networks
to go around...
(there still aren't)
We were around then and we got the patch.
> Routers running out of BGP table space wasn=92t just a fear at the time=
, it was
> a real problem on a number of networks, including, but not limited to S=
PRINT
> and MCI who were the big dogs in the fight at the time.
your cisco ags+ wasn't going to make it over the hump.
> NAT, OTOH, is an address conservation mechanism which has unfortunately=
> of late been mistaken for a security tool. If only people would realize=
how much
> NAT negatively impacts security, manageability, etc.
>=20
> Owen
>=20
>=20
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