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Re: symmetric vs. asymmetric [was: Verizon Policy Statement on Net

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sat Feb 28 12:54:40 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <9934552.473.1425139050703.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck>
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 09:51:29 -0800
To: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

Mike, I call bullshit here.

The sales of Apple TV, Google Chromecast, Amazon=E2=80=99s streaming =
stick, TiVO Stream, and other set-top boxes that stream room to room are =
just too high to believe that people are not using these devices to move =
A/V information within the home. Add to that the number of people who =
use tablet/cellular capabilities like AirPlay to stream content from =
their phone/tablet to their A/V systems and I think you=E2=80=99re well =
beyond 5% of the market and growing.

Owen

> On Feb 28, 2015, at 07:57 , Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> Over 95% of the people don't do anything of the sort (probably much =
closer to 100 than 95). The most common usage is tablets and phones =
going to Facebook, YouTube and Netflix. Regular consumers couldn't care =
less about anything else. If you think otherwise, you've (perhaps =
thankfully) spent too long away from your standard consumer).=20
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> Mike Hammett=20
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "James R Cutler" <james.cutler@consultant.com>=20
> To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>=20
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> On Feb 28, 2015, at 9:19 AM, Mike Hammett < nanog@ics-il.net > wrote:=20=

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> Only have a 25 meg Internet service? Use a 5 MHz channel, not 160 MHz.=20=

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> So, if I use wireless to my, for example, Apple TV, I should limit the =
rate between my file server Mac and the Apple TV based on my Internet =
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> I=E2=80=99m not certain that is reasonable.=20
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