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Re: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Jun 20 16:19:41 2014

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <907f350843684b90943fca3032d0fbe5@EX2013N1.chatham.teksavvy.ca>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 13:17:35 -0700
To: Gabriel Blanchard <gabe@teksavvy.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

The point is that you can offer IPv6 to a lot of people using various =
instatntiations of 100.64.0.0/10 but using globally unique IPv6 =
addresses providing them full true internet access without NAT.

Yes, 6rd is a stopgap, but 6rd stopgap is better than multi-natted IPv4 =
only.

Owen

On Jun 20, 2014, at 07:22 , Gabriel Blanchard <gabe@teksavvy.com> wrote:

> 6rd is in my opinion a band-aid solution, I don't see the point of =
offering IPv6 if it requires IPv4. native IPv6 should be offered where =
possible.
>=20
> We offer native IPv6 to all our DSL customers but only on an opt-in =
basis, we're although unfortunately unable to offer IPv6 over Cable =
since we still depend on a certain incumbent...
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of =
Jean-Francois.Dube@videotron.com
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2014 10:13 AM
> To: lists@sadiqs.com
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org; NANOG
> Subject: RE: Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion)
>=20
> Videotron (AS5769) is offering 6RD (RFC5969) to all residential =
customers, if their gear supports it. (DHCP option 212)
>=20
> (But our MGMT still calls it beta for now.)
>=20
> JF
>=20
> Jean-Fran=E7ois Dub=E9
> Technicien, Op=E9rations R=E9seau IP
> Ing=E9nierie Exploitation des R=E9seaux
> Vid=E9otron
>=20
> "NANOG" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> a =E9crit sur 2014-06-18 20:16:01 :
>=20
>> De : Sadiq Saif <lists@sadiqs.com>
>> A : nanog@nanog.org,
>> Date : 2014-06-19 12:43
>> Objet : Canada and IPv6 (was: Ars Technica on IPv4 exhaustion) Envoy=E9=
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>> par : "NANOG" <nanog-bounces@nanog.org>
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>> On 6/18/2014 14:25, Lee Howard wrote:
>>> Canada is way behind, just 0.4% deployment.
>>=20
>> Any Canadian ISP folk in here want to shine a light on this dearth of=20=

>> residential IPv6 connectivity?
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>> Is there any progress being made on this front?
>>=20
>> --
>> Sadiq Saif


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