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Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Mon Jul 15 12:17:44 2013
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>, Valdis Kletnieks
<Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:17:27 +0000
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I don't think the conversation is based around the method by which informat=
ion is intercepted. I hope the conversation is aligned with its reasoning f=
or disclosure - the American people stopping a government who is known for =
abusing it's power. Obviously this does not mean physically stopping them, =
but I imagine most people know what motivates their state and national poli=
tical officials. I still wonder why Mr. Snowden hasn't dropped more damagin=
g information, it would seem his sworn enemy has made their feelings somewh=
at clear.
Sent from my Mobile Device.
-------- Original message --------
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
Date: 07/15/2013 7:34 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted=
messages
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:45:26 -0500, Aaron Wendel said:
>
>> We (ISPs) are all compelled to provide information from time to time
>> under a court order. The PRISM program is voluntary.
>
> Ask the ex-CEO of Qwest how "voluntary" that sort of stuff is.
it REALLY depends on what 'prisim' is... seen in one light, the
program is 'just' isp/asp people who agree to permit FISA requests to
be satisfied via: "scp files from fisa.isp.net with key fingerprint
0xasdasdasd"
of course, the other way to read it (as the news would like us to
believe) is as: "plug nsa ethernet into eth1 of all servers and
routers, kthxbi!"
more details would certainly make this whole conversation less alamist
and more rational.
-chris
