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RE: One of our own in the Guardian.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nick Guy)
Mon Jul 15 12:03:15 2013
From: Nick Guy <nickguy@noanet.net>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 15:53:01 +0000
In-Reply-To: <8FF168ED9A755F47A9F3399FFECFF077021B12EA96@Dollarbird.gcpud.org>
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Many of the Washington state PUDs very early in the day took on the charge =
of delivering "broadband" to places that the telco's did not see ROI for. =
It did and still does make sense to deliver fiber along with power to the =
home but that is the kind of long term thinking that can be costly up front=
for future improved quality of life. Nice to see some acknowledgement on =
the list of that vision.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bergman [mailto:Rbergma@gcpud.org]=20
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 8:34 AM
To: Warren Bailey; Constantine A. Murenin; Jeff Kell
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: One of our own in the Guardian.
I'm happy to say we did not use federal or state money to build the fiber o=
r the network in Grant County. There is some of that floating around us th=
ough.=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:37 PM
To: Constantine A. Murenin; Jeff Kell
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: One of our own in the Guardian.
I would imagine this cheap rural fiber showed up after the RUS stimulus? A =
former employer (GCI, in Anchorage Alaska) received quite a bit of money in=
the form of a grant/loan for a rural fiber network (I think they may have =
received the largest of all grants). Would be interesting to know how much =
of this was as a result of dot gov funding.
Sent from my Mobile Device.
-------- Original message --------
From: "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc@gmail.com>
Date: 07/14/2013 10:59 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Jeff Kell <jeff-kell@utc.edu>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: One of our own in the Guardian.
On 14 July 2013 10:11, Jeff Kell <jeff-kell@utc.edu> wrote:
> On 7/13/2013 10:15 PM, Jima wrote:
>> On 2013-07-13 14:44, Bill Woodcock wrote:
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/09/xmission-isp-customers-p
>>> rivacy-nsa
>>>
>>
>> I can happily state that XMission is my home ISP, with UTOPIA=20
>> (city-involved fiber optic provider) as the local loop. (Really, who=20
>> has 100/100 at home?)
>
> A whole lot of folks in Chattanooga...
> https://epbfi.com/enroll/packages/#/fi-speed-internet-100
>
> 100Mb symmetric is $69/mo, 250Mb is $139, 1Gbit is $299
>
> Largely Alcatel/Lucent GPON. Business rates considerably higher :)=20
> They are one of our providers and we aren't "metered". I don't know=20
> how they're handling domestic rates / quotas.
There are a number of 100/100 under $100/mo providers in the US, but most o=
f them are concentrated in various rural areas.
I've tried maintaining an up-to-date list of providers with reasonable offe=
rs at http://bmap.su/, but lately haven't had the time to keep on updating =
it.
C.
