[164540] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher Morrow)
Mon Jul 15 10:33:20 2013
In-Reply-To: <11286.1373897480@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:32:59 -0400
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
To: Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>
Cc: nanog list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:45:26 -0500, Aaron Wendel said:
>
>> We (ISPs) are all compelled to provide information from time to time
>> under a court order. The PRISM program is voluntary.
>
> Ask the ex-CEO of Qwest how "voluntary" that sort of stuff is.
it REALLY depends on what 'prisim' is... seen in one light, the
program is 'just' isp/asp people who agree to permit FISA requests to
be satisfied via: "scp files from fisa.isp.net with key fingerprint
0xasdasdasd"
of course, the other way to read it (as the news would like us to
believe) is as: "plug nsa ethernet into eth1 of all servers and
routers, kthxbi!"
more details would certainly make this whole conversation less alamist
and more rational.
-chris
