[163930] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan White)
Fri Jun 21 10:56:30 2013
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:56:18 -0500
From: Dan White <dwhite@olp.net>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <20130609161033.GA16372@dan.olp.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 06/09/13 11:10 -0500, Dan White wrote:
>Let me put my gold tipped tinfoil hat on in response to your statement.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/20/fisa-court-nsa-without-warrant
If accurate, this is extremely concerning:
Top secret documents submitted to the court that oversees surveillance by US
intelligence agencies show the judges have signed off on broad orders which
allow the NSA to make use of information "inadvertently" collected from
domestic US communications without a warrant.
The documents show that even under authorities governing the collection of
foreign intelligence from foreign targets, US communications can still be
collected, retained and used.
...However, alongside those provisions, the Fisa court-approved policies
allow the NSA to:
• Keep data that could potentially contain details of US persons for up
to five years;
Retain and make use of "inadvertently acquired" domestic communications
if they contain usable intelligence, information on criminal activity,
threat of harm to people or property, are encrypted, or are believed to
contain any information relevant to cybersecurity;
All protections afforded by the fourth amendment have essentially been
thrown into the (rather large) bit bucket by the FISA court, when it comes
to any bits which leave your premise.
--
Dan White
