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Re: NYT covers China cyberthreat

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Barak)
Wed Feb 20 06:55:37 2013

In-Reply-To: <yoobqvh1sriryegaftqa5qyb.1361343883740@email.android.com>
From: David Barak <thegameiam@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 06:55:18 -0500
To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Don't be lulled into complacency by a private network: all it takes is one t=
humb-drive or rogue AP and you have a back door.  Private networks reduce bu=
t do not eliminate attackable surface.

David Barak

Sent from a mobile device, please forgive autocorrection.

On Feb 20, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegro=
up.com> wrote:

> An Internet kill switch is a nightmare. We can't even figure out how to ru=
n a relay radio system for national emergencies.. Now we are going to assume=
 the people who were owned can somehow shut off communications?
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> We as Americans have plenty of things we have done halfass.. I hope an Int=
ernet kill switch doesn't end up being one of them. Build your own private n=
etworks, you can't get rooted if someone can't knock. Simple as that.
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> =46rom my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Zaid Ali Kahn <zaid@zaidali.com>
> Date: 02/19/2013 10:44 PM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Kyle Creyts <kyle.creyts@gmail.com>
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: NYT covers China cyberthreat
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> We have done our part to China as well along with other countries in state=
 sponsored "hacking". This is more of news amusement rather than news worthy=
. Question here should be how much of this is another effort to get a "kill s=
witch" type bill back.
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> Zaid
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> On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:10 PM, Kyle Creyts <kyle.creyts@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> quite a bit of coverage lately from the media.
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>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323764804578313101135258708=
.html
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-21505803
>> http://www.npr.org/2013/02/19/172373133/report-links-cyber-attacks-on-u-s=
-to-chinas-military
>> http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-02-14/a-chinese-hackers-identit=
y-unmasked
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>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:
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>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/technology/chinas-army-is-seen-as-tied=
-to-hacking-against-us.html?pagewanted=3Dall
>>> --
>>> Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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>> --
>> Kyle Creyts
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>> Information Assurance Professional
>> BSidesDetroit Organizer
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