[160721] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Bailey)
Mon Feb 11 19:48:24 2013
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>, Stephen Sprunk
<stephen@sprunk.org>, "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 00:47:56 +0000
In-Reply-To: <jgasgkev58w4wtiehfwxsiuv.1360629541537@email.android.com>
Reply-To: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Though I should note that GCI was my former employer and a well respected M=
SO and fiber infrastructure owner/operator. They are the smartest major pla=
yer I've come across, and an all around good bunch of people.
From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
-------- Original message --------
From: Warren Bailey <wbailey@satelliteintelligencegroup.com>
Date: 02/11/2013 4:44 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>,nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?
Check out GCI's Terranet project.
From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.
-------- Original message --------
From: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
Date: 02/11/2013 4:37 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Muni fiber: L1 or L2?
On 11-Feb-13 18:23, Warren Bailey wrote:
> On 2/11/13 4:16 PM, "Masataka Ohta" <mohta@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wr=
ote:
>> Scott Helms wrote:
>>> IMO if you can't pay for the initial build quickly and run it efficient=
ly then your chances of long term success are very low.
>> That is not a business model for infrastructure such as gas, electricity=
, CATV, water and fiber network, all of which need long term planning and i=
nvestments.
> Nearly all of the industries you mentioned below receive some type of loc=
al or federal/government funding. If I was going to build some kind of acce=
ss network, I would be banging on the .gov door asking for grants and low i=
nterest loans to help roll out broadband to remote areas.
I followed the link in a recent email here to the details on the Maine Fibe=
r Co, and their web site indicates they got started with $7M in private fun=
ding--and a $25M grant from the feds for improving service to rural areas. =
That radically changes the economics, just as I'm sure it did for other ut=
ilities.
S
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