[158569] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Six Strike Rule (Was: William was raided...)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joly MacFie)
Tue Dec 4 14:14:05 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAGbD49qb6kf4QumeQadd-Z=7=pGkRQ8OyFL1t9FHMaTiJSWRBw@mail.gmail.com>
From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 14:13:23 -0500
To: Jason Baugher <jason@thebaughers.com>
Cc: North American Network Operators Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: joly@punkcast.com
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
ISOC-NY ran a half day conflab on 6 strikes (which incidentally - and for
reasons that escape me - is a name the Copyright Alert System perpetrators
wish would not be used) last November 15.
A full archive is available at http://isoc-ny.org/p2/4527
On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Jason Baugher <jason@thebaughers.com>wrote:
> We don't do content inspection. We don't really want to know what our
> customers are doing, and even if we did, there's not enough time in the day
> to spend paying attention. When we get complaints from the various
> copyright agencies, we warn the customer to stop. When we hit a certain
> number of complaints, its bye-bye customer.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Jeroen Massar <jeroen@unfix.org> wrote:
>
> > On 2012-12-04 11:51, Nick B wrote:
> > > In a related note, I wonder if the six-strike rule would violate the
> > ISP's
> > > safe harbor, as it's clearly content inspection.
> >
> > As performed in France, what happens is that some copyright owner
> > contacts the ISP that IP address a.b.c.d had accessed/served copyright
> > infringing data at date/time dd-mm-yyyy HH:mm providing some kind of
> > detail on how they figured that out.
> >
> > That report is a 'strike' and gets forwarded to the user.
> >
> > If that then happens 6 times they are blocked.
> >
> > The ISP as such does not do any content inspection.
> >
> > It is though assumed that some ISPs simply count bytes and that they do
> > some investigation themselves when you reach a certain bandwidth
> > threshold (it seems to correlate that copyright infringers are
> > downloading a lot more than normal webbrowsing users...)
> >
> > Greets,
> > Jeroen
> >
> >
> >
>
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