[155196] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Fiji Islands
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hale)
Tue Jul 31 21:59:07 2012
In-Reply-To: <809547A0-4FD2-4CC3-9370-5F4E08B09003@zaidali.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:58:20 -0700
From: Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@gmail.com>
To: Zaid Ali <zaid@zaidali.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Zaid, Franck: Thanks for the clarification. I forgot to take into
account politics.
I suppose it's impossible to obtain a VSAT license if you're
transmitting to an out-of-country teleport?
The technical support side isn't that difficult if you've got
reasonable intelligent people onsite along with spares of
*everything*.
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Zaid Ali <zaid@zaidali.com> wrote:
> VSAT is resold by Telecom Fiji so you are not going to get anything diffe=
rent than the Telecom Fiji experience with the added bonus of very few folk=
s using VSAT in the country and Telecom FIji doing a poor job of operationa=
l support of VSAT. I considered VSAT 12 years ago for connecting the univer=
sity medical network I built there but setting aside costs there was really=
no competence from Telecom Fiji to manage this service. If something break=
s in the earth station a VSAT tech is flown from Australia and it can take =
weeks to fix anything.
>
> My suggestion is to work with Connect folks and explore redundancy from e=
ither vodafone or digicel as Franck suggested. My experience there has been=
building networks in Suva, Lautoka, Nadi. Skeeve can give more advise for =
all the fun building in the resort Islands :)
>
> Zaid
>
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Mike Hale wrote:
>
>> VSAT *isn't* a waste of time if you're willing to spend the money.
>>
>> But that, of course, is the key point. Quality VSAT service costs a
>> LOT of money (3k-5k per asymetrical megabit). Plus, a quality
>> provider will have no problem providing you with BGP.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Zaid Ali <zaid@zaidali.com> wrote:
>>> Fintel and TFL sleep in the same bed essentially. Fintel is the gatekee=
per of the southern cross cable protected heavily by the local government, =
your typical monopoly setup. Connect is a business unit of TFL. I think you=
can do the math there.
>>>
>>> Fintel does not do BGP out of the country (or didn't the last time I wa=
s there). Forget VSAT, waste of time.
>>>
>>> Zaid
>>>
>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Mike Hale wrote:
>>>
>>>> It looks like Fintel and TFL are both providers for Southern Cross
>>>> cable. That would be your best bet if they can get lines out to you.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, there's always VSAT, but that brings a set of other issues =
with it.
>>>>
>>>> Ping me offlist if you want more detail on the VSAT stuff.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Franck Martin <fmartin@linkedin.com> =
wrote:
>>>>> In no particular order
>>>>>
>>>>> Connect.com.fj aka tfl.com.fj
>>>>> Fintel.com.fj
>>>>> Vodafone.com.fj (via a 3G stick)
>>>>> Digicel.com.fj (via a 2G stick, but also via a wireless backbone netw=
ork)
>>>>>
>>>>> If you want to do BGP or IPv6, good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that for Fiji Water? ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> These people have very good operational Internet experience in Fiji.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyverma
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alfred-prasad/0/409/14a
>>>>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/31/12 1:14 PM, "Philip Lavine" <source_route@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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