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Re: Fiji Islands

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Zaid Ali)
Tue Jul 31 21:38:18 2012

From: Zaid Ali <zaid@zaidali.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAN3um4yr_M3yVsJpX0X2o8hVjugH0C9eVX4CvS2kUn1-sKz4Sg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 18:37:41 -0700
To: Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

VSAT is resold by Telecom Fiji so you are not going to get anything =
different than the Telecom Fiji experience with the added bonus of very =
few folks using VSAT in the country and Telecom FIji doing a poor job of =
operational support of VSAT. I considered VSAT 12 years ago for =
connecting the university medical network I built there but setting =
aside costs there was really no competence from Telecom Fiji to manage =
this service. If something breaks in the earth station a VSAT tech is =
flown from Australia and it can take weeks to fix anything.=20

My suggestion is to work with Connect folks and explore redundancy from =
either vodafone or digicel as Franck suggested. My experience there has =
been building networks in Suva, Lautoka, Nadi. Skeeve can give more =
advise for all the fun building in the resort Islands :)

Zaid

On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Mike Hale wrote:

> VSAT *isn't* a waste of time if you're willing to spend the money.
>=20
> But that, of course, is the key point.  Quality VSAT service costs a
> LOT of money (3k-5k per asymetrical megabit).  Plus, a quality
> provider will have no problem providing you with BGP.
>=20
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Zaid Ali <zaid@zaidali.com> wrote:
>> Fintel and TFL sleep in the same bed essentially. Fintel is the =
gatekeeper of the southern cross cable protected heavily by the local =
government, your typical monopoly setup. Connect is a business unit of =
TFL. I think you can do the math there.
>>=20
>> Fintel does not do BGP out of the country (or didn't the last time I =
was there). Forget VSAT, waste of time.
>>=20
>> Zaid
>>=20
>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Mike Hale wrote:
>>=20
>>> It looks like Fintel and TFL are both providers for Southern Cross
>>> cable.  That would be your best bet if they can get lines out to =
you.
>>>=20
>>> Otherwise, there's always VSAT, but that brings a set of other =
issues with it.
>>>=20
>>> Ping me offlist if you want more detail on the VSAT stuff.
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Franck Martin =
<fmartin@linkedin.com> wrote:
>>>> In no particular order
>>>>=20
>>>> Connect.com.fj aka tfl.com.fj
>>>> Fintel.com.fj
>>>> Vodafone.com.fj (via a 3G stick)
>>>> Digicel.com.fj (via a 2G stick, but also via a wireless backbone =
network)
>>>>=20
>>>> If you want to do BGP or IPv6, good luck!
>>>>=20
>>>> Is that for Fiji Water? ;)
>>>>=20
>>>> These people have very good operational Internet experience in =
Fiji.
>>>>=20
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyverma
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alfred-prasad/0/409/14a
>>>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/skeeve
>>>>=20
>>>> On 7/31/12 1:14 PM, "Philip Lavine" <source_route@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and =
Yaqara)?
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
>>>=20
>>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0



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