[155198] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Fiji Islands
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Franck Martin)
Tue Jul 31 22:46:27 2012
From: Franck Martin <fmartin@linkedin.com>
To: Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 02:45:35 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CAN3um4zRS8-Zmt+afJo_axywKexOzJDr532UDBOyeTJ7SnYq9A@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
It is not impossible but you have to prove the current providers cannot pro=
vide you the service. Some resorts in remote islands use VSAT.
To be noted O3B could be a solution too.
Toute connaissance est une r=E9ponse =E0 une question.
On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:58 PM, "Mike Hale" <eyeronic.design@gmail.com> wrote:
> Zaid, Franck: Thanks for the clarification. I forgot to take into
> account politics.
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> I suppose it's impossible to obtain a VSAT license if you're
> transmitting to an out-of-country teleport?
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> The technical support side isn't that difficult if you've got
> reasonable intelligent people onsite along with spares of
> *everything*.
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> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Zaid Ali <zaid@zaidali.com> wrote:
>> VSAT is resold by Telecom Fiji so you are not going to get anything diff=
erent than the Telecom Fiji experience with the added bonus of very few fol=
ks using VSAT in the country and Telecom FIji doing a poor job of operation=
al support of VSAT. I considered VSAT 12 years ago for connecting the unive=
rsity medical network I built there but setting aside costs there was reall=
y no competence from Telecom Fiji to manage this service. If something brea=
ks in the earth station a VSAT tech is flown from Australia and it can take=
weeks to fix anything.
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>> My suggestion is to work with Connect folks and explore redundancy from =
either vodafone or digicel as Franck suggested. My experience there has bee=
n building networks in Suva, Lautoka, Nadi. Skeeve can give more advise for=
all the fun building in the resort Islands :)
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>> Zaid
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>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Mike Hale wrote:
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>>> VSAT *isn't* a waste of time if you're willing to spend the money.
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>>> But that, of course, is the key point. Quality VSAT service costs a
>>> LOT of money (3k-5k per asymetrical megabit). Plus, a quality
>>> provider will have no problem providing you with BGP.
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>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Zaid Ali <zaid@zaidali.com> wrote:
>>>> Fintel and TFL sleep in the same bed essentially. Fintel is the gateke=
eper of the southern cross cable protected heavily by the local government,=
your typical monopoly setup. Connect is a business unit of TFL. I think yo=
u can do the math there.
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>>>> Fintel does not do BGP out of the country (or didn't the last time I w=
as there). Forget VSAT, waste of time.
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>>>> Zaid
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>>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Mike Hale wrote:
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>>>>> It looks like Fintel and TFL are both providers for Southern Cross
>>>>> cable. That would be your best bet if they can get lines out to you.
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>>>>> Otherwise, there's always VSAT, but that brings a set of other issues=
with it.
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>>>>> Ping me offlist if you want more detail on the VSAT stuff.
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>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Franck Martin <fmartin@linkedin.com>=
wrote:
>>>>>> In no particular order
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>>>>>> Connect.com.fj aka tfl.com.fj
>>>>>> Fintel.com.fj
>>>>>> Vodafone.com.fj (via a 3G stick)
>>>>>> Digicel.com.fj (via a 2G stick, but also via a wireless backbone net=
work)
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>>>>>> If you want to do BGP or IPv6, good luck!
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>>>>>> Is that for Fiji Water? ;)
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>>>>>> These people have very good operational Internet experience in Fiji.
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>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyverma
>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/alfred-prasad/0/409/14a
>>>>>> http://au.linkedin.com/in/skeeve
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>>>>>> On 7/31/12 1:14 PM, "Philip Lavine" <source_route@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>> Who offeres Internet Bandwidth in Fiji Islands (Lautoka and Yaqara)=
?
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