[144151] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: iCloud - Is it going to hurt access providers?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Sat Sep 3 18:09:31 2011
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <9319944.685.1315083751735.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 18:08:50 -0400
To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Sep 3, 2011, at 5:02 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Wayne E Bouchard" <web@typo.org>
>=20
>> and will largely accept the problems for the durration or b) (and far
>> more likely) the links apple is using will become flooded or the
>> systems overloaded in some way or another in which case the customers
>> will say, "MAN, this *SUCKS*" and likely whine at apple.
>=20
> If you think that call traffic's going to *Apple*, either you're an =
optimist,
> or I'm nutsabago.
The current apple "media" is reporting it's likely going to amazon and =
microsoft azure.
I've not bothered to look too deeply at dns and packet traces myself.
I'm guessing that all these things are going to hurt the DSL providers =
more than the docsis/fttx/pon based providers. Those folks have broader =
capabilities by pushing updated configs to the devices. The DSL based =
providers are more limited in my experience and likely to see a poorer =
ratio of up:down. SDSL was just not common enough, so most A/VDSL based =
providers have something like 15:1.5 whereas comcast (for example) has =
22:5. I've seen the 22:5 service burst (or should that be buffer/manage =
the queue) to around 80Mb/s down in some cases.
This is something you are unlikely to see from a DSL provider unless the =
equipment is in-building.
- Jared=