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Re: Yahoo and IPv6

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Kumari)
Tue May 10 16:32:05 2011

From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1105101234020.2651@moonbase.nullrouteit.net>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 16:31:17 -0400
To: Igor Gashinsky <igor@gashinsky.net>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On May 10, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Igor Gashinsky wrote:

> On Tue, 10 May 2011, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
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> :: On 9 mei 2011, at 21:40, Tony Hain wrote:
> ::=20
> :: >> Publicly held corporations are responsible to their shareholders =
to get
> :: >> eyeballs on their content. *That* is their job, not promoting =
cool new
> :: >> network tech. When you have millions of users hitting your site =
every
> :: >> day losing 1/2000 is a large chunk of revenue.
> ::=20
> :: Nonsense. 0.05% is well below the noise margin for anything that =
involves humans.
>=20
> I assure you, it is not. 0.005% might be "in the noise", but 0.05% is=20=

> quite measurable given a large enough audience.
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> :: >> The fact that the big
> :: >> players are doing world IPv6 day at all should be celebrated, =
promoted,
> :: >> and we should all be ready to take to heart the lessons learned =
from
> :: >> it.
> ::=20
> :: I applaud the first step, but I'm bothered by the fact that no =
second step is planned.
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> Just because it's not public, doesn't mean that it hasn't been planned =
:)
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> Most of us want to see the data that we get from the first step, =
before=20
> making the decision on which second step to take, I'm sure most people=20=

> can understand that.


Argck, I cannot believe that I am going to do this, let alone publicly, =
but here goes...

Igor is right on both counts here -- 0.05% is definitely noticeable at =
these sorts of scale, and I'd be shocked if Yahoo didn't have a set of =
alerts that fire if projections differ from actual traffic by this =
amount. I'm also a little surprised that you figured that there were no =
plans past the event -- much of the point of this is for data gathering =
-- did you figure folk were just going to gather the data and then =
ignore it?

Ok, that fully used up my "agreeing with Igor" quota for the year...

W

>=20
> -igor
>=20



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