[137735] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6naysayer...)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Scott Helms)
Fri Feb 18 14:08:08 2011
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:07:54 -0500
From: Scott Helms <khelms@ispalliance.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <EFD65FF5-12C8-49BE-8243-F081949A5A08@genius.com>
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On 2/18/2011 1:53 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
> http://www.jetcafe.org/~npc/isp/large.html
>
> If you take the 5 top US ISPs and get them to do dual stack IPv6, that's 50 million subscribers in the US only.
>
> I think google and others will notice some serious traffic happening.
We're years from the point where any one of them will have more than a
tiny fraction of their traffic as IPv6 and that's assuming that all we
have to deal with are the known problems.
> It took a market share of 10 to 20% of Mozilla for web developers to go back to support ALL browsers. Same for mobile web site a 10% surfing rate got many companies to develop web sites for mobiles.
Not really comparable because in both of those cases users were making a
choice, because they perceived some benefit, and hence there was demand
to adapt to those new platforms. There is almost 0 demand for IPv6 from
consumers and what is there is from the technologists. We don't have a
situation where the existing infrastructure doesn't work, it does.
> If I recall Comcast and Time Warner are participating in IPv6 day. This should create enough eyeballs to show on web analytics graph and provide the shift that makes nat444 irrelevant.
I wish, but IPv6 day will be much more of a media event than anything
else. Keep in mind that none of these things are what I wish only what
I believe to be accurate.
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