[136164] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: A top-down RPKI model a threat to human freedom? (was Re: Level
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Feb 1 16:27:45 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinBYJvGLLMpJ0z25riREA-+gq3cf++4H2FXMH54@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:20:37 -0800
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org, carlos@lacnic.net
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Martin Millnert <millnert@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>> Here be dragons,
> <snip>
>> It should be fairly obvious, by most recently what's going on in
>> Egypt, why allowing a government to control the Internet is a Really
>> Bad Idea.
>>=20
>=20
> how is the egypt thing related to rPKI?
> How is the propsed rPKI work related to gov't control?
>=20
RPKI is a big knob governments might be tempted to turn.
>> architecturally/technologically *impossible* for a entity from =
country
>> A to via-the-hierarchical-trust-model block a prefix assigned to some
>> entity in country B, that is assigned by B's RIR and in full
>> accordance with the RIR policies and in no breach of any contract.
>=20
> countries do not have RIR's, countries have NIR's... regions have =
RIR's.
RIRs live in countries with governments.
RIRs are unlikely to mount a successful challenge against an =
organization
with tanks and mortars.
Owen
