[129753] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeromie Reeves)
Fri Sep 17 19:34:17 2010
In-Reply-To: <20100917232442.GA46793@ussenterprise.ufp.org>
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:34:09 -0700
From: Jeromie Reeves <jreeves@18-30chat.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I have the same problem getting decent fiber out here. They keep
wanting to do a loop clear back to the other side of the state. I will
jsut keep building out my towers to towns where I know I can co-lo or
get QMOE at least.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org> wrote:
> In a message written on Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 04:44:04PM +0000, Michael So=
kolov wrote:
>> Does that mean no CLECs like Covad or DSL.net who colocate in the AT&T
>> CO, rent unbundled dry copper pairs and take it up from there themselves=
?
>
> I found someone off list with access to Megapath's "Partner Portal"
> where they can get the real scoop, and did that for my specific
> location.
>
> Short form:
> =A0They can resell AT&T's lower speed ADSL (but not their top speeds)
> =A0at a markup.
>
> =A0They can resell Comcast's cable modem service at a markup.
>
> =A0They can offer IDSL (ISDN Speeds) or SDSL from the actual CO,
> =A0which they claim is 19k feet away, my google maps says 23k feet
> =A0away. =A0The estimate is I could get 768k symmetric at that distance,
> =A0which would mean 1/10th the bandwidth I have now at approximately
> =A05 times the cost I have now.
>
> So I'm sure if you're a government bean counter or AT&T lobbyest
> there is "competition" out of my CO, and I have options. =A0 As a
> consumer looking at the practical side of it I see no options, I
> have a Telco or Cable company, with basically the same offerings
> at the same speed at the same prices.
>
> YMMV, likely a lot with where you live.
>
> --
> =A0 =A0 =A0 Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/
>
