[129870] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Palmer)
Tue Sep 21 17:09:20 2010
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 06:54:14 +1000
From: Matthew Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org>
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On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 09:31:07AM -0700, George Bonser wrote:
> > Yes they are -- content providers aren't getting their connections to
> > the
> > Internet for free (and if they are, how can I get me some of that?).
>
> Maybe I wasn't clear. Traffic is moving away from "transit" to direct
> peering at private exchanges in many cases. [Citation needed]
> > > If the ISPs are directly peering with the content provider at
> > > some IX, the content provider gets what amounts to a free ride to
> the
> > > end user.
> >
> > Say wha? ISPs don't *have* to peer at an IX; if they think that it's
> > cheaper to buy transit from someone than it is to peer, they're more
> > than
> > capable of doing so.
>
> Transit would have to get extremely cheap to compete with exchange
> peering. I don't see it getting that low any time soon.
So it *is* cheaper to peer than to buy transit. Take the money you save
from not buying transit and put it towards upgrading your core.
- Matt
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