[129752] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Did Internet Founders Actually Anticipate Paid,
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leo Bicknell)
Fri Sep 17 19:25:02 2010
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:24:42 -0700
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>
To: nanog@nanog.org
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In a message written on Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 04:44:04PM +0000, Michael Soko=
lov wrote:
> Does that mean no CLECs like Covad or DSL.net who colocate in the AT&T
> CO, rent unbundled dry copper pairs and take it up from there themselves?
I found someone off list with access to Megapath's "Partner Portal"
where they can get the real scoop, and did that for my specific
location.
Short form:
They can resell AT&T's lower speed ADSL (but not their top speeds)
at a markup.
They can resell Comcast's cable modem service at a markup.
They can offer IDSL (ISDN Speeds) or SDSL from the actual CO,
which they claim is 19k feet away, my google maps says 23k feet
away. The estimate is I could get 768k symmetric at that distance,
which would mean 1/10th the bandwidth I have now at approximately
5 times the cost I have now.
So I'm sure if you're a government bean counter or AT&T lobbyest
there is "competition" out of my CO, and I have options. As a
consumer looking at the practical side of it I see no options, I
have a Telco or Cable company, with basically the same offerings
at the same speed at the same prices.
YMMV, likely a lot with where you live.
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Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440
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