[124508] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: 100% want IPv6 - Was: New Linksys CPE, IPv6 ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Apr 1 12:38:39 2010
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <4BB41871.8050608@zill.net>
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:07:05 -0700
To: Patrick Giagnocavo <patrick@zill.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 31, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote:
> Dan White wrote:
>=20
>>>> Are you willing to gamble your business on your expectations? =
Business
>>>> models will develop that will take advantage of global addressing =
to end
>>>> devices. The Next Big (Nth) Thing will. Do you feel that you have a
>>>> perfect
>>>> Crystal Ball, or do you want to start hedging your bets now?
>>>=20
>>> ^^ Doubt.
>>=20
>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space/
>>=20
>=20
>=20
> We have just (anecdotally, empirically) established earlier in this
> thread, that anything smaller than a mid-sized business, can't even
> *GET* IPv6 easily (at least in the USA); much less care about it.
>=20
Huh??? I missed that somewhere. The previous paragraph is:
Falsehood
Uncertainty
Doubt
Contrary evidence:
whois -h whois.arin.net 2620:0:930::/48 -- ARIN Direct Assignment
Multihomed Household
Qualified under stricter policy than is now in effect.
http://www.tunnelbroker.net (yes, I work there, but, you don't have to =
work there
to get a /48 for free).
> Talking about a "crystal ball", in my view, is just a lot of =
hand-waving
> that means "I don't have a real-world example to point to".
>=20
http://www.delong.com
Real world web site multi-homed, dual-stacked, and running just fine.
> Talking about "the Next Big Thing" means that somehow, the NBT will be
> present without any residential or small business broadband users
> partaking in it. Sounds like a pretty small piece of the pie for the =
NBT...
>=20
Again, conclusions not in evidence. It's easy for anyone who wants it =
to
get IPv6 and IPv6 connectivity. Sure, native IPv6 is a little harder to =
get,
but, overall, I'm doing OK with tunnels of various forms and native will
be coming along shortly in many many more places.
Owen
