[120643] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ip-precedence for management traffic
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Thomas)
Tue Dec 29 18:16:16 2009
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:15:24 -0800
From: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
In-Reply-To: <m2d41xjudd.wl%randy@psg.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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Randy Bush wrote:
>> Totally out of the box, but here goes: why don't we run the entire
>> Internet management plane "out of band"
>>
>
> tread caefully. we have experienced (and some continue to experience)
> non-linear expansion of management, control, and stability problems when
> layers are non-congruent.
>
Isn't this just a suggestion to more or less faithfully reproduce the
control and
bearer planes of the TDM network also? I'd think that this fate sharing
aspect of the
internet model is a feature rather than a bug. That is, putting
everything on the same
wire forces you to deal with QoS or get the predictable results. That
and building out
separate and unequal networks pretty much sucks?
Mike