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Re: ip-precedence for management traffic

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Thomas)
Tue Dec 29 18:16:16 2009

Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 15:15:24 -0800
From: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
In-Reply-To: <m2d41xjudd.wl%randy@psg.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Randy Bush wrote:
>> Totally out of the box, but here goes: why don't we run the entire
>> Internet management plane "out of band"
>>     
>
> tread caefully.  we have experienced (and some continue to experience)
> non-linear expansion of management, control, and stability problems when
> layers are non-congruent.
>   

Isn't this just a suggestion to more or less faithfully reproduce the 
control and
bearer planes of the TDM network also? I'd think that this fate sharing 
aspect of the
internet model is a feature rather than a bug. That is, putting 
everything on the same
wire forces you to deal with QoS or get the predictable results. That 
and building out
separate and unequal networks pretty much sucks?

Mike


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