[102058] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: EU Official: IP Is Personal
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric Gauthier)
Thu Jan 24 08:41:49 2008
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:15:04 -0500
From: Eric Gauthier <eric@roxanne.org>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20080124004455.GA64360@metron.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Heya,
> > In the US, folks are fighting the RIAA claiming that an IP address isn't
> > enough to identify a person.
> >
> > In Europe, folks are fighting the Google claiming that an IP address is
> > enough to identify a person.
> >
> > I guess it depends on which side of the pond you are on.
> >
>
> They are both right. If you have a dynamic IP such as most college students
> have, it is here-today-gone-tomorrow.
Our University uses dynamic addressing but we are able to identify likely users
in response to the RIAA stuff. There is a hidden step in here, at least for our
University, in the IP-to-Person mapping. Our network essentially tracks the
IP-to-MAC relationship and the MAC-to-Owner relationship. For us, its not the
IP that identifies a person, but the combination of IP plus Timestamp, which can
be used to walk our database and produce a system owner.
I'm guessing that Google et. al. have a similar multi-factor token set (IP, time,
cookie, etc) which allows them to map back to a "person".
Eric :)