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In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0710201858310.19194@efes.iucc.ac.il> Cc: Nanog list <nanog@nanog.org> From: Joe Abley <jabley@ca.afilias.info> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:24:24 -0400 To: Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il> Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu On 20-Oct-2007, at 1304, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > On Fri, 19 Oct 2007, Joe Abley wrote: > >> For those who don't recognise the name (presumably many people), >> Citylink are a disruptive high-speed metro transport provider in >> Wellington, New Zealand. They run the most elaborate and scary >> layer-2 switched ethernet network I've ever heard of, and the >> other week they ran into some problems which caused a prolonged >> outage. >> >> Here's their writeup: >> >> http://news.clnz.net/2007/10/19#Loopback-Saturday-Discussion >> >> Why don't I have any suppliers like this? > > Probably because your suppliers run everything thru their lawyers. I've had a few responses like this, but I don't buy it. I've worked in many places, some in New Zealand and more elsewhere, where there was a general culture of fear about making public statements about operational incidents. I don't ever remember people sending proposed text to legal and having it pushed back with changes; what happened instead was that text wasn't written in the first place. Maybe Simon's level of detail is such that no legal department would ever condone it. But there's such a tremendous distance between Simon's text and the usual "there are no known issues at this time" that I suspect people just aren't trying. Joe
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