[3446] in SIPB bug reports
Re: no room in the sipb locker
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (web@Athena.MIT.EDU)
Mon Jan 18 16:44:01 1993
From: web@Athena.MIT.EDU
To: "Jonathan I. Kamens" <jik@pit-manager.MIT.EDU>
Cc: eichin@Athena.MIT.EDU, bug-sipb@Athena.MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 18 Jan 93 16:09:52 -0500.
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 93 16:43:34 EST
> Chee, you do next to nothing in terms of maintenance of the sipb
> locker. You don't actively maintain many (if any) of the programs
> currently installed in the locker, and you don't spend any time
> working on cleaning it up or freeing up space in it.
Jik, I realize you do a lot of locker maintanance, but if you want
everyone who doesn't do anything to do nothing, or if there is negative
room to do anything, then it will stay that way. No, I haven't been
doing a hell of a lot of maintanance, but I do some here and there when
I'm around and have time. I have in the past helped clean, free, and
maintain some programs. But in the past the first year I was a member,
I didn't even know how to program in C. The second, I tried to start
helping out and this exceedingly rude guy named Jik was extremely
insulting and his comments were... less than encouraging. I see things
haven't changed.
> Just where do you get off telling the people who *do* spend time
> maintaining the locker what they should be doing, or sticking your
> nose in and doing something significant to the locker before getting
> those people to sign off on it?
Look, I DID talk to some people, and I did get a "yes go do it."
I "get off" doing this because it seems other people don't have time and
I was willing to. Isn't that how sipb works? Also, I "get off" doing
this because as a student group who's partial purpose is to learn teach
its members. I think SIPB and perhaps you in particular should be much
more willing to let its members try things and do things in other than
your godly blessed way.
> To answer your question: I *have* been deleting unneeded tex/latex
> files when space ran out. I don't have time to go through and figure
> out *all* of the files that can be deleted, simply because I DON'T
> HAVE TIME. If *you* wish to do something to alleviate the space
> shortages, then do the *right* thing, not yet another stopgap measure.
Fine.... you don't have time. you've said this before, and you've
yelled at people that no one else is doing things, but when people start
trying and don't do things your way, you yell like hell... i wonder
why people don't do things...
> At the *very* least, you should have brought it up at a meeting before
> doing what you did. No, I take that back, at the *very* least you
> should have looked in the bug-sipb discuss meeting to find out who had
> been active at clearing up space in the past, and contacted them about
> what to do to clear up space now.
as I said, I did ask some people, and the "no, do this instead"
didn't come up then. However, I did just talk to Matthew who suggested
another solution which seems better.. which will be talked about at
the meeting.
> I don't suppose "make install" in the source directories for the
> programs you moved will do the right thing? The sipbsrc locker is
Thanks for the reminder. Depending on what comes of the decision at the
meeting tonight, I will fix them to work right.
-Chee
