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Re: [APO-L] Jesse's comments
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kami Bush)
Tue Jun 8 09:12:51 2004
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 06:12:31 -0700
Reply-To: Kami Bush <kbush123@yahoo.com>
From: Kami Bush <kbush123@yahoo.com>
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Though I agree with most of your comments there is one that I must disagree with.
Brother Sharon says:
Actually, one of the main reasons that women like myself are OK with being
calling "brothers" while working to get the Toast Song changed is that we
acknowledge that there is no single gender-neutral word in the English
language that would convey the relationship that we in Alpha Phi Omega
share, so "brother" is the next-best term. The same cannot be said about
the use of "Men Of" in the Toast Song. There are multiple phrases that
could be used to replace "Men Of" without diluting the meaning of the Toast
Song one little bit.
Brother Kami responds:
Men and man have been used in large quantity to signify all of the human race. ie. mankind, the age of man, etc. So the use of "men of" actually includes all of us women. I personally don't think that we need to change the Toast Song. To me its like changing the United States National Anthem. Yes, we have the power to make changes, but lets not change it so much that we loose site of our roots.
I also would like to say that there are much more important things out there. I agree with Mark and Matt. The lack of reporting and dues being paid makes things really hard on the national office, your region staff, and your section staff. They'd love to hear your suggestions on making these situations better.
Kami Bush
Fall 1998
Clark Atlanta University Sponsor
Mu Mu Alumnus
Oglethorpe University '01
Section 72 Webmistress
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<DIV>Though I agree with most of your comments there is one that I must disagree with.</DIV>
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<DIV>Brother Sharon says:</DIV>
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<DIV>Actually, one of the main reasons that women like myself are OK with being<BR>calling "brothers" while working to get the Toast Song changed is that we<BR>acknowledge that there is no single gender-neutral word in the English<BR>language that would convey the relationship that we in Alpha Phi Omega<BR>share, so "brother" is the next-best term. The same cannot be said about<BR>the use of "Men Of" in the Toast Song. There are multiple phrases that<BR>could be used to replace "Men Of" without diluting the meaning of the Toast<BR>Song one little bit.</DIV>
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<DIV>Brother Kami responds:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Men and man have been used in large quantity to signify all of the human race. ie. mankind, the age of man, etc. So the use of "men of" actually includes all of us women. I personally don't think that we need to change the Toast Song. To me its like changing the United States National Anthem. Yes, we have the power to make changes, but lets not change it so much that we loose site of our roots.</DIV>
<DIV>I also would like to say that there are much more important things out there. I agree with Mark and Matt. The lack of reporting and dues being paid makes things really hard on the national office, your region staff, and your section staff. They'd love to hear your suggestions on making these situations better.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Kami Bush<BR>Fall 1998<BR>Clark Atlanta University Sponsor<BR>Mu Mu Alumnus<BR>Oglethorpe University '01<BR>Section 72 Webmistress</DIV><p>
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