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Re: [APO-L] Use of old Rituals. & waste

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Gallagher)
Thu Mar 4 15:29:01 2004

Date:         Thu, 4 Mar 2004 15:28:47 -0500
Reply-To: Michael Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
From: Michael Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU

Here's a proposition: The ritual is private, so let's work that out
printingwise as a separate issue; however, printing the stuff that is
available online is at least somewhat unneeded (bylaws, T&T to some extent,
etc.).  How do I request that my T&T be emailed?
Michael Gallagher
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Brace" <brace347@hotmail.com>
To: <APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [APO-L] Use of old Rituals.


> While I agree that the ritual should not be changed often, permitting
> changes only every 6 to 10 years presents one major problem.  Any policy
> changes made by the convention in the off years would not be reflected in
> the Ritual.  For example...and not to bring up a sensitive subject (but it
> is the only one i could think of that could be discussed over the list
> serv)...what if the convention changed the toast song in an off year?
Would
> then the toast song be changed everywhere (pledge book, web page, other
> publications, etc), except in the ritual, where we would have to wait 4 to
6
> years to bring the ritual up to date with fraternity policy?
>
> I agree that changes to our ritual should be few, and then only when
> necessary.  However, we have reference committees at convention to weed
out
> unnecessary and unwanted changes.
>
> I understand the frustration with the use of old ritual books.  However,
> careful tracking would likely not be feasable for many reasons, some
already
> mentioned in previous posts.  I only add, that if we required ritual books
> to be returned prior to receiving new books, many chapters would continue
to
> use the old books for a few reasons: (1) they don't want to spend postage
to
> send books back to Ntl Office; (2) the changes were minor, and therefore
> it's not worth their time to send everything back and wait for new ones;
(3)
> they simply forgot.  It's a problem just trying to get AAMD's and chapter
> reaff's back before the Nov. 15th deadline.  And chapters are required to
> submit that paperwork to stay in good standing.
>
> And in regards to re-publishing the books every two years, we do the same
> thing with the bylaws, and I argue that the bylaws are rarely opened by
the
> "average" brother, while the ritual books receive much more use.  If there
> is something that we should keep up to date in print form, it is the
ritual.
>
>
> Just my thoughts....
>
> lfs
> --chuck
>
>
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