[24187] in APO-L
Re: [APO-L] Use of old Rituals.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Gallagher)
Thu Mar 4 15:13:36 2004
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 15:13:14 -0500
Reply-To: Michael Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
From: Michael Gallagher <famtree@UDel.Edu>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
APO is not OLD enough for its ritual to be static enough to allow giving
each member a ritual book. I know my chapter has the same books it used in
Spring 2001 reactivation. Should we return them & get new ones? After
every convention if changes are made?
Michael Gallagher
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From: "EricBenet06" <ericbenet06@verizon.net>
To: <APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [APO-L] Use of old Rituals.
> Randy, this is a wonderful question, and here is an opinion or two:
>
> Old rituals should not be used. Each ritual should have a unique ID
number and
> essentially "loaned" to chapters until the next edition of the ritual is
printed.
> Chaper who lose their rituals should be fined.
>
> We should always keep tabs on missing rituals. Some people might not take
it
> this seriously, but I do. PERSONALLY, I would love for each brother to
receive
> their own ritual (as some orgs do) but I think that since APO is so large,
that
> is not only unfeasible, but not a good idea if we actually want to keep
our few
> secrets really secret.
>
> So anyway, yeah.....old rituals need to be tracked and turned in when a
new
> edition is available.
>
> I have never been able to find an answer to the specific differnces
between
> contemporary rituals and the older ones. I think tha deleted aspects of
the
> ritual should be preserved and discussed, but not forgotten.
>
> Wouldn't it have been nice to see a re-enactment of the ORIGINAL ritual at
the
> 75th Anniversary convention?
>
> --Rashid
>
>
>
> >
> > From: "Finder, Randolph J Mr NGB-ARNG" <Randolph.Finder@ngb.army.mil>
> > Date: 2004/03/04 Thu AM 08:59:19 CST
> > To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
> > Subject: [APO-L] Use of old Rituals.
> >
> > I am interested in opinions on the use of rituals prior to the current
> > ritual for the pledging and brotherhood ceremonies. As a fraternity we
do
> > often do so. When chapters take pledges in the Spring semester after
> > convention, most simply use the pledge ritual from previous to
convention in
> > their ritual books.
> >
> > While I think it would be *VERY* cool to read the initiation ritual that
my
> > chapter founders had in 1929, I don't think it would be appropriate to
use
> > it in place of our current brotherhood ritual to induct pledges. How far
> > back do people feel comfortable going?
> >
> >
> > Randy Finder
> > randolph.finder@ngb.a
>
