[6854] in APO Printshop
Re: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Maggie Walker)
Mon Aug 24 12:50:55 2015
In-Reply-To: <D200AB91.12E07%vxiao@mit.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:50:50 +0200
From: Maggie Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu>
To: Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu>
Cc: "benazeer@gmail.com" <benazeer@gmail.com>,
"tower@alum.mit.edu" <tower@alum.mit.edu>,
Margaret R Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu>,
"ccrazy@panix.com" <ccrazy@panix.com>,
APO Office Manger <apo-om@mit.edu>, APO Press <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
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Hello,
I must confess that I did not realize how important the vise and worktable
are to the print shop. Vicki, at this time, please do not remove the table
or vise from the office. We will try to find a solution that benefits both
the office and print shop. Vicki, do you think that it is possible to clean
the office/ arrange it in a way that we keep the table until I get back on
campus?
Best,
Maggie
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu> wrote:
> Hi Len et al.,
>
> We are trying to get rid of the table the vise is on because while square
> footage-wise it is small, it is inconveniently placed and we just don=E2=
=80=99t
> have the room for it right now. We=E2=80=99ve agreed as an exec team that=
not
> having it would be better for the office. Is it not possible to replace i=
t
> with a sawhorse-type worktable that can be disassembled when not in use?
>
> Also, if the paper cutter is not in good shape we=E2=80=99ll grunge it. I=
don=E2=80=99t
> have the time or know-how to repair it and I don=E2=80=99t think that=E2=
=80=99s
> particularly expensive anyways. As for the hand-turned pencil sharpener, =
we
> can try to relocate it if you really still want to use it.
>
> Best,
> Vicki
>
> From: Benazeer Noorani <benazeer@gmail.com>
> Date: Monday, August 24, 2015 at 10:53 AM
> To: "tower@alum.mit.edu" <tower@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu>, Margaret R Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu>, =
"
> ccrazy@panix.com" <ccrazy@panix.com>, APO Office Manger <apo-om@mit.edu>,
> APO Press <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
> Subject: Re: Keeping the Vise on the Work Table
>
> For what it's worth, the paper cutter is in bad disrepair. I tried using
> it to cut some cardstock last summer, and even exercising all possible ca=
re
> with the tool, it just shredded my paper and made me nervous about my
> personal safety. I wouldn't use it on anything I was giving to a printsho=
p
> customer. If I recall my long-ago active days correctly, it was in bad
> disrepair circa 2001-2005 as well.
>
> --Benazeer
>
> On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Leonard H. Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.ed=
u
> > wrote:
>
>> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 14:35:03 -0400
>> From: Victoria Xiao <vxiao@mit.edu>
>> To: "tower@alum.mit.edu" <tower@alum.mit.edu>
>> Cc: Margaret R Walker <mrwalker@mit.edu>, "apo-om@mit.edu" <
>> apo-om@mit.edu>
>> Subject: Re: Things to consider in rearranging the APOffice
>>
>> Hi Len,
>>
>> To answer your questions:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>> *In your other email, you mentioned the vise and. .... 2) The
>> vise as it is right now is not great for office space. We will
>> probably be moving it and the paper cutter; let=C2=B9s talk more abou=
t
>> what surfaces can be used with the vise, but the one it is on right
>> now is not great for the front office.
>>
>> Best,
>> Vicki
>>
>> My memory is that Vicki & I had at least one more pair of exchanges
>> about the Vice on the Worktable. I couldn't find them. She doesn't
>> want the worktable to stay in the APOffice. She suggested that we just
>> move the vise to another surface along with the paper cutter and the
>> pencil sharpener. Which isn't safe.
>>
>> Use of a vise is necessary and essential to maintain and repair the
>> press shop equipment. It's useful at times for other things.
>>
>> To be useful for press maintenance, and for most use:
>>
>> * the vise needs to be near the height it is now. That is, it needs to
>> be mounted at a height so it can be used while standing. It is
>> unsafe to use it at a lower height. It is unsafe to use it seated or
>> bent over. None of the other surfaces in the front APOffice are high
>> enough.
>>
>> * the surface the vice is mounted on has to be thick, and material has
>> able to hold bolts under force over time. The 'table' has to be
>> sturdy. The object in the vise has to be held well and steadily. If
>> the surface is thin or weak, it's possible for the vice to detach
>> suddenly, which is not safe.
>>
>> * there has to be a certain amount of working room, around it. But
>> that can be created on the fly, depending on how the vise is used.
>>
>> The hand-turned pencil sharpener on the worktable is superior to the
>> electric one. You can get a sharper point with less loss of pencil with
>> it. It could be relocated.
>>
>> It's easiest to use the paper cutter standing up at the height of the
>> worktable. It could be moved elsewhere.
>>
>> The worktable only takes 10 (ten) square feet of floor space.
>> The front APOffice has over 630 square feet of floor space, which APO
>> has over 80%.
>> So the worktable takes up about 2% (two%) of the floor space APO has.
>> AX can't afford that floor space?
>>
>> We had a lengthy in-depth discussion about this in 2011(?). The last
>> time the APOffice was rearranged. Many options were considered. We
>> settled for leaving the vice on the worktable in the front APOffice. I
>> could spend the time to dig that out, but time is so precious for me
>> since the head trauma. If needed, could someone else dif it out?
>>
>> I hope a way can be found to keep the vise on the worktable in the
>> APOffice. The top of the table can also be used for other things and
>> tasks. The space under could be continue to be used other storage,
>> perhaps the ritual equipment..
>>
>> yiLFS -len
>>
>>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<div><br></div><div>I must confess that I did not re=
alize how important the vise and worktable are to the print shop. Vicki, at=
this time, please do not remove the table or vise from the office. We will=
try to find a solution that benefits both the office and print shop. Vicki=
, do you think that it is possible to clean the office/ arrange it in a way=
that we keep the table until I get back on campus?=C2=A0</div><div><br></d=
iv><div>Best,</div><div>Maggie</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Victoria Xiao <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:vxiao@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">vxiao=
@mit.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-fam=
ily:Calibri,sans-serif">
<div>
<div>Hi Len et al.,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We are trying to get rid of the table the vise is on because while squ=
are footage-wise it is small, it is inconveniently placed and we just don=
=E2=80=99t have the room for it right now. We=E2=80=99ve agreed as an exec =
team that not having it would be better for the office.
Is it not possible to replace it with a sawhorse-type worktable that can b=
e disassembled when not in use?</div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, if the paper cutter is not in good shape we=E2=80=99ll grunge it=
. I don=E2=80=99t have the time or know-how to repair it and I don=E2=80=99=
t think that=E2=80=99s particularly expensive anyways. As for the hand-turn=
ed pencil sharpener, we can try to relocate it if you really still
want to use it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div>Vicki</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<span>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:blac=
k;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADD=
ING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:me=
dium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt">
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">From: </span>Benazeer Noorani <<a href=
=3D"mailto:benazeer@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">benazeer@gmail.com</a>>=
<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, August 24, 2015 at 10=
:53 AM<br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href=3D"mailto:tower@a=
lum.mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>" <<a href=3D"=
mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>><br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Victoria Xiao <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:vxiao@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">vxiao@mit.edu</a>>, Margaret R Wal=
ker <<a href=3D"mailto:mrwalker@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">mrwalker@mit.=
edu</a>>, "<a href=3D"mailto:ccrazy@panix.com" target=3D"_blank">cc=
razy@panix.com</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:ccrazy@panix.com" target=3D"=
_blank">ccrazy@panix.com</a>>,
APO Office Manger <<a href=3D"mailto:apo-om@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">=
apo-om@mit.edu</a>>, APO Press <<a href=3D"mailto:apo-printshop@mit.e=
du" target=3D"_blank">apo-printshop@mit.edu</a>><br>
<span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>Re: Keeping the Vise on th=
e Work Table<br>
</div><div><div class=3D"h5">
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>For what it's worth, the paper cutter is in bad disrepair. I tried=
using it to cut some cardstock last summer, and even exercising all possib=
le care with the tool, it just shredded my paper and made me nervous about =
my personal safety. I wouldn't use it
on anything I was giving to a printshop customer. If I recall my long-ago =
active days correctly, it was in bad disrepair circa 2001-2005 as well.
<br>
<br>
</div>
--Benazeer<br>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Leonard H. Tow=
er Jr. <span dir=3D"ltr">
<<a href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">tower@alum.mit.=
edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 14:35:03 -0400<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0From: Victoria Xiao <<a href=3D"mailto:vxiao@mit.edu" targe=
t=3D"_blank">vxiao@mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0To: "<a href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu" target=3D"_bla=
nk">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:tower@alum.mit.edu" =
target=3D"_blank">tower@alum.mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Cc: Margaret R Walker <<a href=3D"mailto:mrwalker@mit.edu" =
target=3D"_blank">mrwalker@mit.edu</a>>, "<a href=3D"mailto:apo-om@=
mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">apo-om@mit.edu</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:a=
po-om@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank">apo-om@mit.edu</a>><br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Subject: Re: Things to consider in rearranging the APOffice<br=
>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Hi Len,<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0To answer your questions:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0...<br>
<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0*In your other email, you mentioned the vise and.=C2=A0 =C2=A0=
....=C2=A0 =C2=A02) The<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0vise as it is right now is not great for office space. We will=
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0probably be moving it and the paper cutter; let=C2=B9s talk mo=
re about<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0what surfaces can be used with the vise, but the one it is on =
right<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0now is not great for the front office.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Best,<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Vicki<br>
<br>
My memory is that Vicki & I had at least one more pair of exchanges<br>
about the Vice on the Worktable.=C2=A0 I couldn't find them.=C2=A0 She =
doesn't<br>
want the worktable to stay in the APOffice.=C2=A0 She suggested that we jus=
t<br>
move the vise to another surface along with the paper cutter and the<br>
pencil sharpener.=C2=A0 Which isn't safe.<br>
<br>
Use of a vise is necessary and essential to maintain and repair the<br>
press shop equipment.=C2=A0 It's useful at times for other things.<br>
<br>
To be useful for press maintenance, and for most use:<br>
<br>
=C2=A0* the vise needs to be near the height it is now.=C2=A0 That is, it n=
eeds to<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0be mounted at a height so it can be used while standing.=C2=A0=
It is<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0unsafe to use it at a lower height.=C2=A0 It is unsafe to use =
it seated or<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0bent over.=C2=A0 None of the other surfaces in the front APOff=
ice are high<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0enough.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0* the surface the vice is mounted on has to be thick, and material ha=
s<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0able to hold bolts under force over time.=C2=A0 The 'table=
' has to be<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0sturdy.=C2=A0 The object in the vise has to be held well and s=
teadily.=C2=A0 If<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0the surface is thin or weak, it's possible for the vice to=
detach<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0suddenly, which is not safe.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0* there has to be a certain amount of working room, around it.=C2=A0 =
But<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0that can be created on the fly, depending on how the vise is u=
sed.<br>
<br>
The hand-turned pencil sharpener on the worktable is superior to the<br>
electric one.=C2=A0 You can get a sharper point with less loss of pencil wi=
th<br>
it.=C2=A0 It could be relocated.<br>
<br>
It's easiest to use the paper cutter standing up at the height of the<b=
r>
worktable.=C2=A0 It could be moved elsewhere.<br>
<br>
The worktable only takes 10 (ten) square feet of floor space.<br>
The front APOffice has over 630 square feet of floor space, which APO<br>
has over 80%.<br>
So the worktable takes up about 2% (two%) of the floor space APO has.<br>
AX can't afford that floor space?<br>
<br>
We had a lengthy in-depth discussion about this in 2011(?).=C2=A0 The last<=
br>
time the APOffice was rearranged.=C2=A0 Many options were considered.=C2=A0=
We<br>
settled for leaving the vice on the worktable in the front APOffice.=C2=A0 =
I<br>
could spend the time to dig that out, but time is so precious for me<br>
since the head trauma.=C2=A0 If needed, could someone else dif it out?<br>
<br>
I hope a way can be found to keep the vise on the worktable in the<br>
APOffice.=C2=A0 The top of the table can also be used for other things and<=
br>
tasks.=C2=A0 The space under could be continue to be used other storage,<br=
>
perhaps the ritual equipment..<br>
<br>
yiLFS -len<br>
<br>
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