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Re: MIT staff print job
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leonard H Tower Jr.)
Thu Jan 7 18:39:10 2010
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 18:39:08 -0500 (EST)
From: "Leonard H Tower Jr." <tower@alum.MIT.EDU>
To: Mitchell E Berger <mitchb@MIT.EDU>
cc: Matthew S Goldstein <austein@MIT.EDU>, Jennifer Tu <jtu@MIT.EDU>,
"apo-printshop@mit.edu" <apo-printshop@MIT.EDU>
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i agree with what mitch wrote about Tech Cash not providing a solution
here
it's part of why i sad that kerri doesn't understand the law here
yiLFS -len http://www.art.net/~tower/=20
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 16:56:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Mitchell E Berger <mitchb@MIT.EDU>
To: Matthew S Goldstein <austein@mit.edu>
Cc: Jennifer Tu <jtu@mit.edu>, Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.MIT.EDU>,
"apo-printshop@mit.edu" <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: MIT staff print job
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Uh, I'm not really happy about this entire discussion, but I do
feel like I need to mention that I don't buy the claim about TechCASH
being any different. When you put money on TechCASH, you're handing
money to MIT to buy things over time. If it needs to collect sales
tax for things it sells you, then it needs to collect sales tax for
those things. Putting money into an MIT account without stating
what it's for and then moving it around to a group's account to acquire
something that you were supposed to pay tax on is subterfuge, I think.
(No, I'm not a lawyer, but yes I'm sure that the TechCASH people are
careful about keeping track of which purchases are and aren't tax-exempt=
,
and if we were to be taking payments with TechCASH for things that
aren't actually exempt purchases, we'd be screwing the over because
MIT would do its reporting incorrectly.)
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Mitch
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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Matthew S Goldstein wrote:
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> I stopped by SAFO today to ask Kerri about this since it seems like th=
ere
> must be a way.
>=20
> As Ellen's mail indicated, taking sales tax is complicated. But it's
> possible! Kerri has been looking into doing something similar for ano=
ther
> student group so she's been familiarizing herself with this. She said=
if
> we ask in a week or two she may have an easy way for us to report this=
and
> take the sales tax when needed.
>=20
> Meanwhile, there are two ways that we can do this for people at MIT.
> The first is to take techcash for the job - this is internal to MIT so=
we
> avoid the tax issue.
> The second is to provide the service for free and accept a donation. W=
hile
> legal, Kerri suggested only doing this as a stopgap and recommended th=
e
> TechCash solution over it.
>=20
> As for external jobs from not-MIT people such as Mims' business cards,=
she
> suggested we hold off until we can accept sales tax
>=20
> Anyway, this was all just a quick meeting with Kerri since i was in th=
e
> building when I saw this. Cat, it's up to you what you want to do.
>=20
> --Matt
>=20
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Jennifer Tu wrote:
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> > Hi Len,
> >=20
> > Thanks for providing this information to everyone. I personally fou=
nd
> > the last two emails helpful.
> >=20
> > Would it be possible for you to let us know why it's not allowed? a =
quick
> > description like "because it's something you can go to a business fo=
r and
> > the requestor is an individual/business" (or whatever the reason act=
ually
> > is) would be great. A really quick description of why you recommend
> > turning away a job would both help ops learn why we can or can't do
> > something, which would make each of us better at publicizing the pre=
ss
> > services to the correct audiences. It would also help those
> > policy-minded actives with crafting a good policy on the chapter
> > providing fee-based services.
> >=20
> > Nothing long or time-intensive or even thorough -- just a quick sent=
ence
> > that would help your brothers understand your no/maybe recommendatio=
n.
> >=20
> > --Jennifer
> >=20
> > On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Leonard H Tower Jr. wrote:
> >=20
> > > hi cat et all
> > >=20
> > > this job is beyond what AX is allowed to do under the tax exemptio=
ns
> > > we have as part of mit
> > >=20
> > > yiLFS -len
> > >=20
> > > Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:20:29 -0500
> > > From: Jennifer Cook <jacook@MIT.EDU>
> > > To: "apo-printshop@mit.edu" <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
> > > Subject: MIT staff print job
> > >=20
> > > Hello!
> > >=20
> > > I=92ve just met with Matthew Goldstein and he said to email this
> > > address as I=92m interested in getting wedding invitations print=
ed
> > > up. I=92d be interested in the invitation, response card,
> > > direction card and envelopes printed with return address. Thank
> > > you!
> > >=20
> > > Best,
> > > Jen
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