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Re: MIT staff print job
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew S Goldstein)
Thu Jan 7 17:53:08 2010
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:53:06 -0500 (EST)
From: Matthew S Goldstein <austein@MIT.EDU>
To: Mitchell E Berger <mitchb@MIT.EDU>
cc: Jennifer Tu <jtu@MIT.EDU>, "Leonard H Tower Jr." <tower@alum.MIT.EDU>,
"apo-printshop@mit.edu" <apo-printshop@MIT.EDU>
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Yeah, this confused me too. I'm not sure if she meant that it's easy to=20
take the sales tax out through techcash or just that it really doesn't=20
matter. Or maybe that we take the donation via techcash. I can try=20
asking tomorrow. Either way, MIT's financial staff seem to think we=20
should be able to offer this service to the community.
--Matt
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Mitchell E Berger wrote:
> Uh, I'm not really happy about this entire discussion, but I do
> feel like I need to mention that I don't buy the claim about TechCASH
> being any different. When you put money on TechCASH, you're handing
> money to MIT to buy things over time. If it needs to collect sales
> tax for things it sells you, then it needs to collect sales tax for
> those things. Putting money into an MIT account without stating
> what it's for and then moving it around to a group's account to acquire
> something that you were supposed to pay tax on is subterfuge, I think.
> (No, I'm not a lawyer, but yes I'm sure that the TechCASH people are
> careful about keeping track of which purchases are and aren't tax-exempt,
> and if we were to be taking payments with TechCASH for things that
> aren't actually exempt purchases, we'd be screwing the over because
> MIT would do its reporting incorrectly.)
>
> Mitch
>
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Matthew S Goldstein wrote:
>
>> I stopped by SAFO today to ask Kerri about this since it seems like ther=
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>> must be a way.
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>> As Ellen's mail indicated, taking sales tax is complicated. But it's=20
>> possible! Kerri has been looking into doing something similar for anoth=
er=20
>> student group so she's been familiarizing herself with this. She said i=
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>> we ask in a week or two she may have an easy way for us to report this a=
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>> take the sales tax when needed.
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>> Meanwhile, there are two ways that we can do this for people at MIT.
>> The first is to take techcash for the job - this is internal to MIT so w=
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>> avoid the tax issue.
>> The second is to provide the service for free and accept a donation. Whi=
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>> legal, Kerri suggested only doing this as a stopgap and recommended the=
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>> TechCash solution over it.
>>=20
>> As for external jobs from not-MIT people such as Mims' business cards, s=
he=20
>> suggested we hold off until we can accept sales tax
>>=20
>> Anyway, this was all just a quick meeting with Kerri since i was in the=
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>> building when I saw this. Cat, it's up to you what you want to do.
>>=20
>> --Matt
>>=20
>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Jennifer Tu wrote:
>>=20
>>> Hi Len,
>>>=20
>>> Thanks for providing this information to everyone. I personally found =
the=20
>>> last two emails helpful.
>>>=20
>>> Would it be possible for you to let us know why it's not allowed? a qui=
ck=20
>>> description like "because it's something you can go to a business for a=
nd=20
>>> the requestor is an individual/business" (or whatever the reason actual=
ly=20
>>> is) would be great. A really quick description of why you recommend=20
>>> turning away a job would both help ops learn why we can or can't do=20
>>> something, which would make each of us better at publicizing the press=
=20
>>> services to the correct audiences. It would also help those policy-min=
ded=20
>>> actives with crafting a good policy on the chapter providing fee-based=
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>>> services.
>>>=20
>>> Nothing long or time-intensive or even thorough -- just a quick sentenc=
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>>> that would help your brothers understand your no/maybe recommendation.
>>>=20
>>> --Jennifer
>>>=20
>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010, Leonard H Tower Jr. wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> hi cat et all
>>>>=20
>>>> this job is beyond what AX is allowed to do under the tax exemptions
>>>> we have as part of mit
>>>>=20
>>>> yiLFS -len
>>>>
>>>> Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 15:20:29 -0500
>>>> From: Jennifer Cook <jacook@MIT.EDU>
>>>> To: "apo-printshop@mit.edu" <apo-printshop@mit.edu>
>>>> Subject: MIT staff print job
>>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> I=92ve just met with Matthew Goldstein and he said to email this
>>>> address as I=92m interested in getting wedding invitations printed
>>>> up. I=92d be interested in the invitation, response card,
>>>> direction card and envelopes printed with return address. Thank
>>>> you!
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jen
>
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