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Re: The Mini-Press Cart
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Goldstein)
Tue Feb 3 23:32:46 2009
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 23:33:03 -0500
From: Matthew Goldstein <austein@MIT.EDU>
To: "Leonard H Tower Jr." <tower@alum.MIT.EDU>
CC: Kristin Kuhn <kkuhn@mit.edu>, "Elizabeth Power!" <epower@mit.edu>,
apo-tools@mit.edu, apo-svp@mit.edu, apo-printshop@mit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.64L.0902032046310.12499@mass-toolpike.mit.edu>
Hi Len,
Don't worry about putting formal training in with the cart building.
The Tools Chair can take care of that part before cart-building so the
brothers doing construction can have training and experience. I believe
Kristin is getting in touch with them to see about doing this.
--Matt
Leonard H Tower Jr. wrote:
> * i'm applying the classic KISS principle
>
> Keep It Super Simple
>
> i will build the cart for small/baby/mini press.
> i will get one or two brothers involved.
> i will not do any kind of formal training,
> just what makes sense along the way.
> i do not have the time to do formal shop drawings.
> i do not have the time to transfer the design
>
> i just want to get the cart built.
> (it would have been so nice to say to matt tonight:
> "throw a tarp over the small press on cart and take it to the
> service fair!"
> )
>
> * i have to get substantial work done on my carriage house,
> and on my rental apt, by early August.
> qualifying and supervising contractors continues to consume infinite
> time
>
> i will continue to train/qualify/advise the press shop,
>
> i do not wish to become tools trainer
>
> * if any of you want to learn carpentry,
> i suggest joining the hobby shop,
> and doing some simple projects there.
> they have plans and pictures of possible projects,
> and people are very willing to help you learn
>
> * there are some books in the APOffice on building and construction
> they might have chapters on tool safety and tool use
>
> remembered from email announcements:
> ** tool training has sometimes built something.
> e.g. a loft in a brother's room (with the brother paying for
> materials)
> ** tool training has sometimes just taken scrap lumber and used it
> for people to practice on
>
> once you have a tool training chair identified, you might offer the
> ASA mailing list a chance to build something out of lumber. noting
> that there are limited number of slots, and the activity has to buy
> the materials. not 1st come, 1st serve, but project that makes the
> most sense to the SVP and tool trainer ...
>
> yiLFS -len
>
> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:59:26 -0500
> From: Kristin Kuhn <kkuhn@MIT.EDU>
> To: Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu>
> Cc: Elizabeth Power! <epower@mit.edu>, apo-tools@mit.edu, apo-svp@mit.edu,
> apo-printshop@mit.edu
> Subject: Re: The Mini-Press Cart
>
> I am planning to make/find this outline of what we wish to teach
> people, so that is not the problem.
>
> Basically, if Len doesn't want to do it... then we need to find an
> active who is knowledgeable enough about tools, who Len trusts to make
> the cart the way it needs to be made. The second part is key, there -
> I imagine Len already has the cart designed, and it would be
> troublesome for someone else to take it and perhaps mess it up...
>
> What actives are tools-y? I think Matt is... anyone else?
>
> We basically just need a tools chair, who is willing to create
> aforesaid outline and be pantsful about dealing with this. Who are our
> options? Do we even have any?
>
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:22:43 -0500
> > From: Elizabeth Power! <epower@MIT.EDU>
> >
> > so...I've been thinking....
> >
> > (1) we need a tools training cause there are a lot of people who want to
> > learn more about building things
> > (2) Len needs people to help build it
> > (3) Building-Things Projects are awesome
> >
> > so...
> > we should turn the cart building into a tools training or actual project!
> >
> > (and then we can get the extra wood out of the office, and we can take it to
> > activities fairs and get more recruitments, and the world will be a happier
> > place!)
> >
> > liz
> >
> > great idea, but
> >
> > * no one has yet been able to give me an outline of what AX wishes
> > taught during tools training, or even a detailed list of goals
> >
> > * i don't have the time in the near future to develope such an
> > outline, and get the relevant officers to review it
> >
> > * it be better for a clued in active to offer tools training, as well
> > as passing on "how to do tools training" via a clue dump ands/or
> > whatever
> >
> > * i don't have the additional time to devote to really training while
> > building the cart
> >
> > i just need one or two people to help cut the wood
> > i have a short list of people, i want to work with on this
> > and will ask wider if that doesn't work out
> >
> > if they want to stay around and help after that,
> > and realise that this is a project, not a training exercise
> > fine
> >
> > i will offer some tips and training, but it won't be an adequete
> > tools training
> >
> > yiLFS -len
> >
>
>
