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Re: The Mini-Press Cart
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leonard H Tower Jr.)
Tue Feb 3 21:06:44 2009
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 21:06:30 -0500 (EST)
From: "Leonard H Tower Jr." <tower@alum.MIT.EDU>
To: Kristin Kuhn <kkuhn@MIT.EDU>
cc: Elizabeth Power! <epower@MIT.EDU>, apo-tools@MIT.EDU, apo-svp@MIT.EDU,
apo-printshop@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: <9c92c16e0902031359q49115746k344cd89fea005aed@mail.gmail.com>
* i'm applying the classic KISS principle
Keep It Super Simple
i will build the cart for small/baby/mini press.
i will get one or two brothers involved.
i will not do any kind of formal training,
just what makes sense along the way.
i do not have the time to do formal shop drawings.
i do not have the time to transfer the design
i just want to get the cart built.
(it would have been so nice to say to matt tonight:
"throw a tarp over the small press on cart and take it to the
service fair!"
)
* i have to get substantial work done on my carriage house,
and on my rental apt, by early August.
qualifying and supervising contractors continues to consume infinite
time
i will continue to train/qualify/advise the press shop,
i do not wish to become tools trainer
* if any of you want to learn carpentry,
i suggest joining the hobby shop,
and doing some simple projects there.
they have plans and pictures of possible projects,
and people are very willing to help you learn
* there are some books in the APOffice on building and construction
they might have chapters on tool safety and tool use
remembered from email announcements:
** tool training has sometimes built something.
e.g. a loft in a brother's room (with the brother paying for
materials)
** tool training has sometimes just taken scrap lumber and used it
for people to practice on
once you have a tool training chair identified, you might offer the
ASA mailing list a chance to build something out of lumber. noting
that there are limited number of slots, and the activity has to buy
the materials. not 1st come, 1st serve, but project that makes the
most sense to the SVP and tool trainer ...
yiLFS -len
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:59:26 -0500
From: Kristin Kuhn <kkuhn@MIT.EDU>
To: Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: Elizabeth Power! <epower@mit.edu>, apo-tools@mit.edu, apo-svp@mit.edu,
apo-printshop@mit.edu
Subject: Re: The Mini-Press Cart
I am planning to make/find this outline of what we wish to teach
people, so that is not the problem.
Basically, if Len doesn't want to do it... then we need to find an
active who is knowledgeable enough about tools, who Len trusts to make
the cart the way it needs to be made. The second part is key, there -
I imagine Len already has the cart designed, and it would be
troublesome for someone else to take it and perhaps mess it up...
What actives are tools-y? I think Matt is... anyone else?
We basically just need a tools chair, who is willing to create
aforesaid outline and be pantsful about dealing with this. Who are our
options? Do we even have any?
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:22:43 -0500
> From: Elizabeth Power! <epower@MIT.EDU>
>
> so...I've been thinking....
>
> (1) we need a tools training cause there are a lot of people who want to
> learn more about building things
> (2) Len needs people to help build it
> (3) Building-Things Projects are awesome
>
> so...
> we should turn the cart building into a tools training or actual project!
>
> (and then we can get the extra wood out of the office, and we can take it to
> activities fairs and get more recruitments, and the world will be a happier
> place!)
>
> liz
>
> great idea, but
>
> * no one has yet been able to give me an outline of what AX wishes
> taught during tools training, or even a detailed list of goals
>
> * i don't have the time in the near future to develope such an
> outline, and get the relevant officers to review it
>
> * it be better for a clued in active to offer tools training, as well
> as passing on "how to do tools training" via a clue dump ands/or
> whatever
>
> * i don't have the additional time to devote to really training while
> building the cart
>
> i just need one or two people to help cut the wood
> i have a short list of people, i want to work with on this
> and will ask wider if that doesn't work out
>
> if they want to stay around and help after that,
> and realise that this is a project, not a training exercise
> fine
>
> i will offer some tips and training, but it won't be an adequete
> tools training
>
> yiLFS -len
>
