[5523] in APO Printshop
Re: Stuff from printshop
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leonard H Tower Jr.)
Wed Dec 17 22:07:18 2008
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:04:24 -0500 (EST)
From: "Leonard H Tower Jr." <tower@alum.MIT.EDU>
To: Ellen Kranzer <ccrazy@mit.edu>
cc: Mitchell E Berger <mitchb@mit.edu>, Cat Thu Nguyen Huu <catthu@mit.edu>,
apo-printshop@mit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64L.0812172149290.3530@w20-575-82.mit.edu>
one more thing:
* i'm oppossed to cases of type being borrowed from the shop
they are too easy dropped, which damages the type and requires a lot
of time to sort the case out
and they might be dropped in a place where some of the type gets
lost (e.g. near a sewer grate)
* i am not opposed to a set block of type being borrowed for a short
time
yiLFS -len
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:56:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.MIT.EDU>
To: Ellen Kranzer <ccrazy@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Mitchell E Berger <mitchb@MIT.EDU>, Cat Thu Nguyen Huu <catthu@MIT.EDU>,
apo-printshop@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Stuff from printshop
i agree with mitch and ellen with these caveats:
* this discussion applies only to qualified press operators
if someone else AX, or non-AX wants to borrow stuff,
we should discuss it first
* unique items can't be borrowed, e.g.
** the planers used to level the type
** the bristle haired brush used for cleaning the type
* the oldest of non-unique items should be borrowed, e.g.
** the older push-push solvent dispenser (in the squarish
container),
which is generally under the newer one (in the round container)
* if the press shop manager can't be found for approval, any
journeyman can grant approval
* email should be sent to apo-printshop@mit.edu when anything is
borrowed, and when it's returned
borrowed items should also be signed out and in in the log in the
looseleaf binder by the door
yiLFS -len
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:43:26 -0500 (EST)
From: Ellen Kranzer <ccrazy@MIT.EDU>
To: Mitchell E Berger <mitchb@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Leonard H Tower Jr. <tower@alum.MIT.EDU>,
Cat Thu Nguyen Huu <catthu@MIT.EDU>, apo-printshop@MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: Stuff from printshop
I basically agree with what Mitch said, but with the additional
restriction that there needs to be some active reason why the work
couldn't be done in our shop. While people intend to return things
promptly, the best of intentions don't always work out and
borrowing from the shop should be a last resort, not the first
though on how to get the job done.
-- Ellen
On Sun, 14 Dec 2008, Mitchell E Berger wrote:
> > to the best of my knowledge,
> > we don't have a policy about this
>
> I believe that's correct.
>
> > we generally try to develop "policy"
> > via consensus of the press ops and journeymen
> >
> > so, what do press ops and journeymen think?
>
> As I mentioned on zephyr, I think in the absence of a policy, on something
> like this, Cat as the manager gets to make the call, but it's nice that
> she's asking for input.
>
> I think my take is that we probably don't really need a formal policy for
> this because the circumstance of someone having a press at home to go
> work with is exceptionally rare. But my personal advice would be that if
> the person in question is a brother and an operator and has a press of
> their own, they're probably able to be trusted with some of the shop's
> stuff briefly. So, unless they're asking to borrow items that we don't
> have in plentiful supply and there's a reservation coming up before they
> would return the items, I think it's probably reasonable to let them
> borrow.
>
> Mitch
>
> > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 18:58:21 -0500
> > From: Cat Thu Nguyen Huu <catthu@MIT.EDU>
> > To: apo-printshop@mit.edu
> > Subject: Stuff from printshop
> >
> > Today there was a power problem when Kate was printing, and she asked
> > me
> > whether she could borrow some stuff from the printshop (pins, types)
> > to wo
> > rk
> > with the press she had at home, and bring them back tomorrow, in case
> > the
> > facilities guy did not come on time. In the end he did come, although
> > not
> > very on time, and Kate finished her job. However, I'm not sure what
> > our
> > policy about taking stuff out of the printshop is. Under what
> > circumstance
> > s,
> > if any, can someone borrow things, and who can do that or let them do
> > that
> > ?
> >
> > Cat
>
