[5408] in java-interest
Re: Microsoft's Java-Killer! (VBScript)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Greg Ewing)
Thu Feb 8 00:44:02 1996
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 14:45:31 +1100
From: grege@optimation.com.au (Greg Ewing)
To: java-interest@java.sun.com
> From NewsGroup_comp-lang-java Tue Feb 6 22:25 EST 1996
> From: NewsGroup_comp-lang-java
> >From: bdietrich@voysys.com (Bill Dietrich)
> Subject: Re: Microsoft's Java-Killer! (VBScript)
> Date: 5 Feb 1996 18:23:20 -0800
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> To: "'java-interest@java.sun.com'" <java-interest@java>
>
>
> Actually, if VBScript is delivered and works, I think
> it may be a serious threat to Java.
>
> I've been lurking on the Java list for a while, and
> as a professional programmer I can tell you I'm not
> very excited about yet another complex object-oriented
> language (and library).
>
Java complex? This is the first time I have seen this
stated anywhere, and I spend at least 1 hour per day
reading about the language. Java is simple and can be
learnt very quickly by anyone with a grasp of C. It is
simpler than C by specification.
> I want something that lets me get a job done (making
> money for my company) without having to make a career
> of learning some really complex tool. I don't like
> Microsoft Foundation Classes for the same reason.
> I could learn Java or MFC (and I have learned C++ and
> Smalltalk), but there are easier ways to get my job done.
>
If you already know C++ and Smalltalk, then Java will be a
cakewalk. C++ is complex, Smalltalk easier but still far
more difficult to learn than Java.
I can see where you're coming from when you cite the MFC;
however the Java API is small and very easy to learn (partly
due to single-inheritance).
> I haven't seen anything about JavaScript yet; maybe that
> will be a tool I'll be happier with.
>
In my case, Java was much easier to pick up than Visual
Basic, notwithstanding the poor standard of documentation and
lack of a good ide.
> (stuff omitted)
> I just want to get a job done, in a simple and straightforward way.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill Dietrich
> bdietrich@voysys.com
>
GREG
grege@optimation.com.au
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