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Re: Java for Solaris 2.4 x86

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff.Kesselman@netcom.com)
Thu Jun 15 14:53:09 1995

From: Jeff.Kesselman@netcom.com
To: Tomasz.Rys@clico.krakow.pl
Date:          Wed, 15 Jun 1994 11:32:00 +0000
Cc: java-interest@java.sun.com

Tom et al:

First let me say I am NO WAY conencted with Sun or the Java team, I 
just can't resist a  religous war... which this is.


> 
> I share surprising with Thomas - if you only think about volume sale why 
> you do not port a software first to MS-Windows and after that to SPARC 
> and x86 Solaris?  Are we (SUN, SunSoft) in competition with Microsoft or 
> we are a software supplier for Microsoft's users? I know that SPARC is 
> the main business of SUN but please compare number of PCs with number of 
> SPARC stations. Lets try to eat some piece of the cake. Don't leave 
> everything for Microsoft.

Thats a nice emotional argument, but taken from the nattural POV of 
the java team, it makes no sense.

Remember that they're goal is that Java become a well-respected, 
well-used language.  The sales of other Sun_Soft products are, at 
best, an incidental concern.  The team showed brilliance in writing 
HotJava-- they managed to catch a wave and catapult their language 
into the limelight by means of hooking onto the internet band-Wagon 
(congrats, guys.) 

 HOWEVER the number of net-cruisers running EITHER 
SPARC or INTEL based Solaris is so small as to be virtually 
inconsequential.  So, to answer your questionas  I see it:

1) Why SPARC First/?  because thats the team's "home"
    environment where they were most comfortable and could be
   most productive.

2) Why Windows next?  Because something like 80% of the
    net users out there are runnign windows.  Windows NT is just a
   stepping stone to the "real" windows platforms (Win95 and, if
   that fails to take off, some form of 3.1/orkgroups.)

3) Why Mac?  Becuase Mac is that other 19.9% of the market.

Everyone else is in that .1%.  The fact of the matter is that you as 
a Solaris user already HAVE been blessed by the fact that they are 
scheduled to do it at all.  Other OS's such as Linux, IRIX, etc are 
going to have to be ported to and supported by their users.

So Sun IS being good to you, kwityerbitchin.

All my opinion.

Jeff Kesselman.
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