[1701] in java-interest
Re: Raw Sockets Under Java
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Aleph One)
Thu Sep 14 16:38:51 1995
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 10:30:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: Aleph One <aleph1@dfw.net>
To: winans@aps.anl.gov
Cc: java-interest@java.sun.com
In-Reply-To: <9509141500.AA14458@phoebus>
Thanx for the answer. Its seams a lot of peolpe assumed I was talking
about a applet. I'am not. I want to write an application. Which leats me
to some observations as to the state of java. It seems to me that the
current defined API caters to applets. There are a number of functions
(such as RAW socket, and I do mean RAW sockets not TCP sockets) that are
missing becuase it would constitute a breach of security or maybe the
wouldnt be of much use to an applet. I would argue that sun made an error
in calling the current API classes java.net, java.util, etc. I belive
this should have been java.applet.net, java.applet.util, etc. which are a
subset or a true java library under java.x that would implement most
funtionality in the standard C library + many unix C library functions.
That is if we expect Java to become a viable alternative to C/C++.
The fact that I have to create my own RawSocket class and recompile the
interpreter in not what will drive Java to become the number one
programming language.
Aleph One / aleph1@dfw.net
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On Thu, 14 Sep 1995 winans@aps.anl.gov wrote:
> Perhaps it is a bogus and/or ambiguous question...
>
> The simple fact that you have to be root (on a real OS) to use
> SOCK_RAW, would indicate that this feature should not be present on
> something that is supposed to be secure. Even if it was present, you'd
> have to run the interpreter as root for it to work.
>
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